(July 31, 2011 at 4:14 pm)Rhythm Wrote: I am explaining to you that every observation we have made about life and death leads us to the conlusion that there is no "experience of death". The thing which you call the "self" or mistakenly refer to as the "soul" that has "experiences" is a product of a biological machine. When that biological machine cease to function, you will be unable to experience anything. You will not have use of any of your senses (because they depend on the functions of this machine), and you are no longer producing thought (another function of this machine). You are not "nothing" materially, you have simply ceased functioning, what is so hard to understand about this?Exactly Rhythym, let those who propose a soul or dualism describe exactly what it is, and assuming that that definition includes reference to the immaterial, exactly how the immaterial interfaces with the material. Otherwise it is an appeal to magic. Parsimony and the available evidence would lead us to conclude that we are indeed biological machines and that the mind and brain are connected.
Positing all manner of psychopomps to fill the backdrop on an eternal morality play, then casually load it on the back of our fear of death is absurd. It isn't what we don't know about death that makes an afterlife possible, it is what we do know about death that makes it impossible.
"I still say a church steeple with a lightning rod on top shows a lack of confidence"...Doug McLeod.