Still a Christian - ask me questions/tell me about yourselves

[Rev. Rye]

Has anyone mentioned the September 11 hijackers yet? Clearly they got their seventy-two virgins, or raisins or whatever. They would never have died for a lie, surely?

To me, a lie has a specific meaning: it requires the person in question knows what they're saying is false and acting like it's true anyway.

You think you can demonstrate Mohammed Atta and pals didn't believe in Islam, but decided to die for it anyway?

That's why I used the Bando Mitsugoro example. To paraphrase an Internet reviewer I follow, what he was doing was wrong, he had to know it was wrong, but he did it anyway.