Still a Christian - ask me questions/tell me about yourselves

[Rev. Rye]

You think you can demonstrate Mohammed Atta and pals didn't believe in Islam, but decided to die for it anyway?

I dont recall saying that. Perhaps you could point it out to me?

The question on the table is "why would people die for a lie", not "would they die for what they know is a lie".

I did explain my definition of "lie" in that very post, if you recall. In my eyes, the term "lie" only applies if there's an intention to deceive. If they don't, it's anything from misinformation to delusion, but not a lie per se.

And, if the question is, in fact, "why would they die for a lie," the question becomes even less meaningful. If people can die for what they know is a lie, people dying for what they believe is true even if it is a lie somewhere down the line becomes a lot more understandable. That distinction may have a difference, but it's one that undermines the whole point of the question, because people die for wrong things happens every day and in a shockingly high number of contexts.