(November 2, 2017 at 1:12 pm)Brian37 Wrote:(November 1, 2017 at 1:02 pm)alpha male Wrote: https://www.marketwatch.com/story/why-mi...2017-10-20
Bottom line Alpha times change. I no more like newer woo than I like old woo.
It may surprise you as much of a hard time as I give you, I don't even like atheists attempts to create "Satanist" churches. They'd argue that it is not the same thing which is absurd to me knowing the word itself has long and ancient roots, and all they really are doing is simply looking at the bad behaviors of the past and creating a new moral code to compete with old ideas.
I've had pantheist and new age co workers, and while I do see attempts to reject the past in an attempt to be more inclusive now as a way to compete, I still have a problem with even this new trend.
They are ditching old religions because of the tribalism and bigotry. But in creating new beliefs, that also has the risk long term as becoming just as dogmatic and tribal centuries from now.
It should not even surprise anyone reading this, if in 500 years there is a Yoda religion or Star Trek religion or Harry Potter religion.
They are not looking for excuses to do bad things, they are rejecting the tribalism of the past, and while that is well intended, they are still suffering the same bad logic as antiquity. New or old, humans never consider that our morality isn't being handed to us, but already in us, and as secular as a new club may claim to be, it is still needlessly creating a moral list instead of valuing common law for everyone.
I attended a Unitarian Church in Lynchburg Va, we had liberal Christians, conservative Christians, Muslims and Buddhists, and atheists and even a lady who believed in the Egyptian God Isis. I am not kidding. They were all nice people, but no matter how much I liked them, it didn't mean they had evidence for their claims.
Brian, I have observed an interesting contradiction about you. One constant theme in your posts has been the rejection of the idea of Utopia. Yet you seem eternally frusterated by the fact that human beings are not perfect, logical specimens.
Our brains don't work that way. It is pysiologicaly impossible for human beings to be like the Vulcans of Star Trek. You regularly deride fiction yet you chastice us for our failure to live up to a standard that (as far as we know) exists only in fiction.
You hate, "woo" but you are drowning in it yourself. You're pinining for human beings which cannot even exist without genetic engineering we are not yet capable of.
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.
Albert Einstein
Albert Einstein