For Rich Fetuses Only, Though

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Born poor, not on them.

Since you're not one of those flaming douches conservatism has been inundated with......I feel like we might be able to have a productive discussion. 

The crushing majority of welfare recipients are children.  "Born Poor" is the only category that could apply to them at such a basic level as to be inarguable.

Stay poor, not sure, I've never really been poor so it's hard to comment.

You don't have to experience poverty to comment on the nature and demographics thereof.  The majority of the category above, "born poor" will stay poor, despite being members of the final category of hard ass workers doing a necessary job.  This isn't a grey area, it's a known quantity.  

Stay poor given the opportunity to change, might be worth discussing. 

What would that include, college grads who, despite educating themselves..fail to find work outside of the service industry?  Did they have opportunity?  

Laid off, a grey area depending on circumstance, but lets say not on them. Staying laid off given the opportunity to change, might be worth discussing.

Layoffs don't generally happen in areas with a labor shortage or surplus of opportunity.  How should those who are laid off in depressed areas respond, where and what is the opportunity to discuss?  

Working/contributing to society and not able to obtain food and shelter (other life necessities), not acceptable.

-and yet this is the state that the working poor, the largest demographic in american society, find themselves in and denigrated for.  What can we do about this?

No issues with born poor child support.

If I don't know crushing poverty personally so I doubt I can comment on what mental state (the despair) that can place a person in, the sense of hopelessness. I have certainly lived poor, for periods of time, by choice while chasing the opportunity of change. I never felt the despair.

What college degrees are we discussing? Art history, 19th century french poetry, everyone can be a computer programmer? If the person chooses a poor educational path considering the job market they squandered their opportunity in my view. This is what I like or want to do does not necessarily guarantee employment.  

Layoffs, grey area is if the person contributed to the lack of success of the company, I seen and lived thru it. In a depressed area, move. In a depressed job field, change. Or don't change and accept the circumstances. 

What can we do? Create more jobs and employment opportunities that have market value. Someone in another thread mentioned the value of a post war economy. What drove that economy, production of items the market values.

Those who denigrate the poor who want change are foolish and misguided.

Edit: Service industry jobs are not all bad, i.e. medical, tech.