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"A good guy with a gun" saves the day, only to be shot dead himself
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"A good guy with a gun" saves the day, only to be shot dead himself
The NRA better put an asterisk every time they talk about a "good guy with a gun" that says: "ONLY APPLIES TO WHITE MEN." 

https://thehill.com/homenews/news/416255...le-holding

Quote:A police officer responding to a shooting in a Chicago-area bar shot and killed a black security guard who had subdued and disarmed the shooter.

On Sunday at 4 a.m. a group of drunken men were asked to leave Manny's Blue Room Bar, witnesses told local news station WGN9.

Afterwards, someone from the group returned with a gun and opened fire. 

Security returned fire, witnesses told WGN9, and an armed security guard, Jemel Roberson, apprehended one of the men involved outside. 

"He had somebody on the ground with his knee in his back, with his gun in his back like, 'Don’t move,'" witness Adam Harris told WGNTV.

But an officer responding to the scene fired at Roberson and killed him.

"Everybody was screaming out 'Security!' He was a security guard," Harris said.

The Midlothian police department confirmed to The Hill that two of its officers responded to the shooting and one opened fire.

"Upon arrival Officers learned there were several gunshot victims inside the bar. A Midlothian Officer encountered a subject with a gun and was involved in an Officer involved shooting.  The subject the Officer shot was later pronounced deceased at an area hospital," Chief Daniel Delaney of the Midlothian Police Department said in a statement.

Delaney added an investigation into the shooting of the security guard is now taking place.

Friends of Roberson told the news station that he planned to become a police officer and was an upstanding man.

The Cook County Sheriff's Office will manage the investigation into the shooting at the bar as the State Police Public Integrity Task Force is investigating the shooting of Roberson.
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RE: "A good guy with a gun" saves the day, only to be shot dead himself
(November 12, 2018 at 11:29 pm)Aegon Wrote: The NRA better put an asterisk every time they talk about a "good guy with a gun" that says: "ONLY APPLIES TO WHITE MEN." 

https://thehill.com/homenews/news/416255...le-holding

Quote:A police officer responding to a shooting in a Chicago-area bar shot and killed a black security guard who had subdued and disarmed the shooter.

On Sunday at 4 a.m. a group of drunken men were asked to leave Manny's Blue Room Bar, witnesses told local news station WGN9.

Afterwards, someone from the group returned with a gun and opened fire. 

Security returned fire, witnesses told WGN9, and an armed security guard, Jemel Roberson, apprehended one of the men involved outside. 

"He had somebody on the ground with his knee in his back, with his gun in his back like, 'Don’t move,'" witness Adam Harris told WGNTV.

But an officer responding to the scene fired at Roberson and killed him.

"Everybody was screaming out 'Security!' He was a security guard," Harris said.

The Midlothian police department confirmed to The Hill that two of its officers responded to the shooting and one opened fire.

"Upon arrival Officers learned there were several gunshot victims inside the bar. A Midlothian Officer encountered a subject with a gun and was involved in an Officer involved shooting.  The subject the Officer shot was later pronounced deceased at an area hospital," Chief Daniel Delaney of the Midlothian Police Department said in a statement.

Delaney added an investigation into the shooting of the security guard is now taking place.

Friends of Roberson told the news station that he planned to become a police officer and was an upstanding man.

The Cook County Sheriff's Office will manage the investigation into the shooting at the bar as the State Police Public Integrity Task Force is investigating the shooting of Roberson.

Read this this morning.

So much for identifying and confirming your target.

Oh wait, he did. "Black guy with a gun! Bang!"
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#3
RE: "A good guy with a gun" saves the day, only to be shot dead himself
Extremely poor assessment of the situation. This is also posted in the "Cops" thread. AFAIAC, this looks like negligent homicide. It's ate up, for sure. Man's dead for no reason. Dodgy
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RE: "A good guy with a gun" saves the day, only to be shot dead himself
(November 12, 2018 at 11:29 pm)Aegon Wrote:
Quote:Delaney added an investigation into the shooting of the security guard is now taking place.

And, the investigation will find no fault with the officer that shot a security guard while people around him yelled that he was, in fact, a security guard.
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RE: "A good guy with a gun" saves the day, only to be shot dead himself
I dunno.

Cop fuck up?? Quite possibly.

But - forget the guy is black for a minute.

Was he in uniform? The story here doesn't say. That would be a big factor.

If not - the cop just sees one guy pointing a gun at another guy.

That' s what an investigation is supposed to tell us.


First person who goes off, claiming I' m trying to make excuses for bad policing, is a cunt.

I' m saying - I don't know. I wasn't there and don't know all the facts.

Piling on screaming " murder" just shows you are biased.
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RE: "A good guy with a gun" saves the day, only to be shot dead himself
(November 13, 2018 at 2:44 am)onlinebiker Wrote: I dunno.

Cop fuck up?? Quite possibly.

But - forget the guy is black for a minute.

Was he in uniform? The story here doesn't say. That would be a big factor.

If not - the cop just sees one guy pointing a gun at another guy.

That' s what an investigation is supposed to tell us.


First person who goes off, claiming I' m trying to make excuses for bad policing, is a cunt.

I' m saying - I don't know. I wasn't there and don't know all the facts.

Piling on screaming " murder" just shows you are biased.
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According to this updated story from CNN https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/13/us/securi...index.html , he was wearing a "SECURITY" vest.
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RE: "A good guy with a gun" saves the day, only to be shot dead himself
More guns always make things better.
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RE: "A good guy with a gun" saves the day, only to be shot dead himself
(November 13, 2018 at 4:32 pm)Aegon Wrote:
(November 13, 2018 at 2:44 am)onlinebiker Wrote: I dunno.

Cop fuck up?? Quite possibly.

But - forget the guy is black for a minute.

Was he in uniform? The story here doesn't say. That would be a big factor.

If not - the cop just sees one guy pointing a gun at another guy.

That' s what an investigation is supposed to tell us.


First person who goes off, claiming I' m trying to make excuses for bad policing, is a cunt.

I' m saying - I don't know. I wasn't there and don't know all the facts.

Piling on screaming " murder" just shows you are biased.
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According to this updated story from CNN https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/13/us/securi...index.html , he was wearing a "SECURITY" vest.

That makes a difference. It does make it look more like the cop fucked up.
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RE: "A good guy with a gun" saves the day, only to be shot dead himself
(November 12, 2018 at 11:29 pm)Aegon Wrote: The NRA better put an asterisk every time they talk about a "good guy with a gun" that says: "ONLY APPLIES TO WHITE MEN." 

https://thehill.com/homenews/news/416255...le-holding

Quote:A police officer responding to a shooting in a Chicago-area bar shot and killed a black security guard who had subdued and disarmed the shooter.

On Sunday at 4 a.m. a group of drunken men were asked to leave Manny's Blue Room Bar, witnesses told local news station WGN9.

Afterwards, someone from the group returned with a gun and opened fire. 

Security returned fire, witnesses told WGN9, and an armed security guard, Jemel Roberson, apprehended one of the men involved outside. 

"He had somebody on the ground with his knee in his back, with his gun in his back like, 'Don’t move,'" witness Adam Harris told WGNTV.

But an officer responding to the scene fired at Roberson and killed him.

"Everybody was screaming out 'Security!' He was a security guard," Harris said.

The Midlothian police department confirmed to The Hill that two of its officers responded to the shooting and one opened fire.

"Upon arrival Officers learned there were several gunshot victims inside the bar. A Midlothian Officer encountered a subject with a gun and was involved in an Officer involved shooting.  The subject the Officer shot was later pronounced deceased at an area hospital," Chief Daniel Delaney of the Midlothian Police Department said in a statement.

Delaney added an investigation into the shooting of the security guard is now taking place.

Friends of Roberson told the news station that he planned to become a police officer and was an upstanding man.

The Cook County Sheriff's Office will manage the investigation into the shooting at the bar as the State Police Public Integrity Task Force is investigating the shooting of Roberson.


They should at least warn people that being a good guy with a gun is a good way to get you killed.  Having stopped a bad guy doesn't mean the cops show up, hoist you on their shoulders and carry you to your hero's reward.  (That's your pall bearer's job.)
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RE: "A good guy with a gun" saves the day, only to be shot dead himself
(November 13, 2018 at 5:42 pm)onlinebiker Wrote:
(November 13, 2018 at 4:32 pm)Aegon Wrote: '"
According to this updated story from CNN https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/13/us/securi...index.html , he was wearing a "SECURITY" vest.

That makes a difference. It does make it look more like the cop fucked up.

At this point, I would agree. Read
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