RE: New atheist here, gotta say, not loving it
November 4, 2017 at 3:39 pm
(This post was last modified: November 4, 2017 at 3:43 pm by mordant.)
(November 3, 2017 at 10:11 am)Aroura Wrote: This forum really is filled with a lot of insensitive assholes. Come on guys, someone's suffering and your advice is, stop suffering? Buck up. Get over yourself?While I'm provisionally assuming the OP's post was honest, I'm always hedging a bit because it could just be a troll looking to see what sort of rise he can get out of people, or, in the alternative, a Christian poking the nest to see if his arguments will hold up. In other words I have so often encountered believers who think atheism necessarily has anything to do with nihilistic existential dread, that I will not be surprised if that's the case here.
Not all, but there are a lot of outright mean responses here.
That said, OP, if I have you wrong, my apologies in advance. I have met plenty of deconverts who go through an initially tough time deprogramming themselves and if that's really your situation I'm ready to empathize with you like crazy. Just engage honestly a bit with your own thread and we're good.
(November 3, 2017 at 10:37 pm)Rayden_Greywolf Wrote: Thank you for the responses, guys.Ah, THERE you are.
What changed was that I lost what little hope I had. The hope that there was a reason for suffering in the world, that there was some transcendent goodness to the universe.
Sure, I have hobbies and family and friends and all that, but they're just conditional, material....things.
Like...I don't know, I feel that I don't have a reason to do anything now. I'm just an animal with animal fears and desires and there's else to it.
You're welcome.
So is it fair to say you never found existence ... for lack of a better word ... compelling, and religion held out the hope of better things just around the corner?
If so, we're more or less in the same wheelhouse, in terms of personality and mental constitution, and I'm happy to discuss further.
(November 3, 2017 at 11:13 pm)Rayden_Greywolf Wrote: I should mention I never really "truly" believed. I grew up in a Christian household, but when I was able to start thinking for myself, I eventually realized I had no reason to believe in it. I never had faith in anything.Well I had faith in stuff and "really truly believed". It was no help. So no harm, no foul in that regard.