(November 6, 2017 at 1:41 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:(November 6, 2017 at 1:26 pm)wallym Wrote: The goal is (nearly) no guns. That's the actual endpoint. We've seen it all over the world. 'No guns' is not 'marrying a horse.' I am not going beyond the actual objective to some hypothetical nonsense which is what slippery slope fallacy is. The goal is not a maximum of 5 kids killed per mass shooting at an elementary school. It's 0 shootings at elementary schools. You achieve this through the removal of guns. It's obvious. Australia and the UK figured it out with little difficulty.You haven't been keeping up with the NRA propaganda if that's what you think.
Currently, it's not feasible or politically expedient in the US. But that doesn't change the fact that is the objective for many, and that number is going to grow going forward.
Now if I said "What's next, we can't have cars because you can kill someone with them?" That would be a slippery slope fallacy.
The details of propaganda are for the unwashed masses to cry about on social media. The crux of the issue is found in the objective of the propaganda. Which is what I said in my first post. NRA recognizes the rational endpoint of the opposition is no guns. Their objective is to make sure it stays as far from that as possible. What they are doing is how you do that.
I've been lucky enough to watch the gay rights movement unfold as I've grown up. It was masterful. When I was young, not sure when, I remember Kurt Loder on MTv promoting 'alternative lifestyle.' They weren't bad people, they were just different. And that's all they wanted. Then for it to be an accepted lifestyle. Then it was civil unions. We don't want marriage, just our own thing. Then it was marriage. Then you had to view their marriage as positive. Then you had to bake a cake for their marriage by law, and now if you tried to call being gay an alternative lifestyle, you'd be a bigot.
The way they kept moving the goalpost as the young people they targeted grew older and took up a larger portion of the social defining demographic was genius. And good on them. But I'm sure when it all started someone said "Next thing you know, they'll be trying to get married." And someone else said "Slippery slope fallacy!"