Moral Nihilism

[Sam]

This is why I say you cannot condemn the Nazis for genocide. Your moral majority doesn’t trump the National Socialist moral majority.

Unfortunately that is wrong on so many levels ... the Nazis leadership where the minority who pushed through these acts (hence the targetted nature of the Nuremberg Trials) it was accepted by the rest of the world (a vast majority) that in commiting these acts the Nazis has stepped outside the bounds of the moral system we genertaed over many years and they where rightly held to account in the system of moral arbitration that they where once part of but flounted.

It would be rich for an avowed Christian to hand out moral judgemnts on genocide, they happened in the bible, God is the 'lawgiver' through his bible ergo genocide is okay? Is that not correct?

Its inconsistent for the atheist to reject nihilism and instead live in fairyland where we get to make up our own purpose and meaning and pretend that the universe gives a shit.

Again Charles, it is not inconsistent for an atheist to reject nihilism ... your argument is based around proponents of evolution. Proponents of evolution have every right to reject nihilism if that is not where their understanding leads them, we don't live in a 'fairyland' or need the 'universe to give a shit' as you put it, the fact is that we exist by an action of chance and we create meaning in our life by our pursuits and actions.

Whereas Christians and religious types in general can't accept their own finite mortality, you are simply too dependant on God to provide you with a free pass to validation of your life. Proponents of evolution and atheist in general accept that this is the life we have and aim to make the best of it, many religious people are happy to accept the teaching of their paticular church and stop their pursuit of truth at it. I personally consider it a great waste.

The universe is not merely the stars and the space in between them, it contains you and me as well. If the universe is purposeless, you and I are purposeless.

Why argue with the obvious? Too scary?

Resistance is futile.

I think we're reaching a stalemate now Charles, you seem unable to accept that we exist (in our minds) without a creator God so regardless of the nature of the universe in that it is a purposeless entity and that the forces controlling it have nothing paticular in mind (how could they? they're no concious) we are here and that allows us to ordain our own purpose.

Sam

(P.s. Sorry to but in Adrian, hope you don't mind)