(November 7, 2017 at 8:29 am)MysticKnight Wrote: It says a lot. It says you guys want to make yourself different, but really you are not all too different.
I don't 'want' to make myself different. My atheism is in no way, a rebellion against societal norms. It is simply a result of skepticism being correctly applied to the god claim.
Quote:You value something above all else (whatever that is, is a god to you), you try to finding meaning in that, and you have your way of defining right and wrong, and have your way of explaining life. There is nothing different. You have a creed, a religion, an ideology, a way of life, and you have a god or gods among many gods. And you centre your attention on people you don't know for sure are worth that attention just like all false religions do.
This is what it proves.
The fact that I values, lets say, family and friends above above all else, does not in any way make that my 'god'. Sorry, but the word 'god' has a lot of baggage associated with it, that being; supernatural powers, universe creating, miracle performing, etc. If you are going to redefine 'god' in such a way as to remove all that, to whatever I care most about, you have just castrated any meaning from the word.
I have zero religions. Again, if you want to redefine that word to mean anything you want to make me seem as gullible as you, then have at it. But you are no different than those that say something like, "god is love". Everything you are attributing to us that you think defines us as having a religion, have better words that already exist.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.