One sentence that throws the problem of evil out of the window.

[Catholic_Lady]

Well, here's my answer. It's a disordered act that goes against Natural Law, and there are several reasons for that: 

1. God created sex to be a sacred act of mutual self giving love between husband and wife. Rape takes sex completely outside of that context on many severe levels. It completely defiles something which is meant to be sacred.  

2. Every person has inherent value and inherent human rights. By forcing yourself on someone for your own gratification you are reducing them down to an object to be used by you, and in doing so, disregarding them as human beings with inherent value. Simultaneously you are taking away their inherent rights by using force and/or no consent.   

3. Children are the most vulnerable and weakest among us, and we have a moral responsibility to protect those who are weaker. By doing the exact opposite we are not only neglecting our moral duties, we are completely violating them.

0. How do you know there is a "natural law" against rape when the concept of rape itself seems to exist only among humans in a civilized society?

1. Umm, so do you believe a wife cannot be raped by her husband within the bounds of marriage?

2. What are these "inherent human rights", and why should violating them concern me in any way if I am the perpetrator?

3. Again, leaving aside social consequences, why should the perpetrator be concerned about neglecting or violating these "moral duties"?

0. Natural law is actually specifically about human behavior.

1. Which is precisely why I specifically said "mutual, self giving love between husband and wife". AKA: not rape.

2. In this case, the right to not be raped.

3. If you're a psychopath who doesn't care about moral laws or other people, then I can't tell you why you should care other than having to face the consequences.

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In other words?  You must mean, 'in completely different words,' lol.  Pool is saying exactly what you just quoted him as saying, Atlas.  Don't assign beliefs to him that doesn't hold. He's simply asking not to be strawmanned.  It's a fair request.  If you disagree on a straw-man accusation then just say so, and present your evidence.  You're just piling straw on top of straw with this comment.

Yes; in other words? You say it when a sentence or a statement carry an implicit meaning.

So somebody is a Catholic. So I tell them "you worship Jesus and condemn anybody saying otherwise to be in hell; just like your official clergy say". And I am pulling a strawman because of this?

I'm not piling straws. I'm calling Catholicism for being what it is; Islam for being what it is; and getting bashed for it; accepting that because it's a public debate forum, where I'm expecting to get my opinion criticized.
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You don't have the right to touch my personal life, but whatever belief or faith I put here is subject to discussion and criticism.
That's not a strawman argument; LFC

My bold.

Our clergy doesn't say that Atlas. If you think otherwise, please provide the catechism paragraph that says so. Im not sure why you keep going on about this. You seem to really want us to believe youre going to Hell. Its kind of bizzarre.

I've always had respect for you as a forum member here, but honestly you're starting to lose some of that.