(November 9, 2017 at 4:02 am)Little Rik Wrote:(November 8, 2017 at 7:18 pm)Face2face Wrote: What do you mean where in the Bible is it clearly stated that God is a mass murderer?
I provided the scripture (Isaiah 45:7)
Unless pre school English has recently radically been changed, "all evil" would nicely cover any messed up thing to ever happen to humans or any other species.
You don't get it Face.
If you would have read my post carefully you would have understood that I am not argue whether in the Bible is written or not your quotation-citation.
I instead point out to you that what is written in the Bible is not necessary what God said or even if that is what God said the interpretation of such a citation is taken in the wrong way most of the time.
Quote:That evil also includes "free will", as murderers have the "free will" to murder here on earth, according to the bible and free will is yet another thing, and God created all things.
Anything that happens is on "God" , as God is said to create all things, including the action of man. The minute you say God didn't do it, you are lying about the "holy Bible" which says in fact God did it and does it all, not just the good bits, but the messed up bits too.
Wrong again Face.
Suppose you have some grown up kids.
You gave them life so to speak and as a father you hope that they will follow your teaching but you can not stop them if they do bad things once they are grown up.
You did your very best, unfortunately they refuse to follow your teachings.
Is that your fault?
Why should be your fault?
That is why we can not blame God for the evils that go on all the time.
Surely the free will is open to options.
This is also part and parcel of the creation.
Evolution of the consciousness and the opposite that I call DEvolution are part and parcel of this universal game.
God doesn't like to see people doing bad things but at the end everything is sorted out through the karma law and people after banging the head so many times on the wallthey finally will learn and develop enough consciousness to reach the goal of life.
Quote:Its funny most theists say God did it when good things happen, otherwise they suddenly turn of God's did and does everything power when bad things happen.
That is some fine contradiction right there.
No questions that a lot of theists do that.
I am not one of them however.
Evolution is one way up for matter, plants and animals but is two ways up or down for human beings.
Too many people are not aware of this important factor.
My belief is that the guy that killed all those people in Texas will be reincarnated again and again to be killed
as many times as he killed and be wounded as many times as he wounded.
This is the karma law at work so the balance will be restored.
Karma? Really?
Stalin died in power, nothing bad happened to him during his rule, except old age.
Karma and reincarnation are poppycock too.
Nature and evolution are a process, not a comic book. Evolution does not care if cruelty or compassion win. Bad people can go their entire lives getting away with it, and good people can suffer too and never get help. Our species is far older than any written religion or claimed superstition.
I was not anything prior to my birth. My life now is not a result of any prior life. I will not exist after I die either. I am not so narcissistic as to think I was important 1 billion years ago, nor do I think I will be important 5 billion years from now.
