RE: One sentence that throws the problem of evil out of the window.
November 9, 2017 at 5:48 pm
(November 9, 2017 at 5:40 pm)Mr.Obvious Wrote:(November 9, 2017 at 5:17 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I'll ignore the sarcasm, since I am taking the time to answer your questions and have an honest discussion with you.
Generally speaking if a person genuinely and sincerely believes that what they are doing is morally good, I do think a certain level of culpability is lessened.
But I find it impossible to believe that going as far as murder and torture of millions of innocent people and children is sincerely seen as morally good by any sane person. I don't believe it. I think many people will rationalize it and tell themselves it's good, or pretend it's good, but I think deep down we all inherently know that mass killing and torturing innocent people is bad, and it takes either a bad or mentally ill person to do it.
As for Hitler, I don't believe for one second his God claims were genuine: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_...olf_Hitler
Don't ignore the sarcasm. And that's without sarcasm. I just thrive on the stuff. I find that sarcasm can be a decent part of conversation. And I'm not saying that to be contrarian. Often it's just that nothing signifies to my conversational partner better what my feelings on a subject are. Sarcasm isn't dishonesty; it's one of the most honest utterances one can provide.
And all religious books are filled with holy wars and mass extinctions and God-sanctified invasions. Over human history billions have thought that killing in the name of God(s) was good. From the Vikings to witch-hunters in America, from the Crusades to modern Jihad... From Samuel 15:3 to Quran 4:89... Billions have thought numerous crimes that you and I deem horrible and unfathomable in accordance with a (or more) perfect, loving God(s).
I do not label those people insane. Insanity is something else.
Ignorant. Cognitavely dissonant. ... More the terms I'd use.
And yet all of them thought and think they were and are on the right side.
And it doesn't matter whether or not Hitler was a catholic or not. That's why I said it didn't matter earlier, whether or not he believed it: He profiled himself and his vision as such. Many of his followers were catholic and by profiling his movement as such, whether or not he believed it himself, THEY did find a way to justify those horrid actions.
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"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
-walsh