RE: White Guy Self-Identifies as Filipino Woman
November 17, 2017 at 5:38 am
(This post was last modified: November 17, 2017 at 5:54 am by Amarok.)
(November 17, 2017 at 3:40 am)pool the matey Wrote:I think your confused .Tizheruk Wrote:We use cultural points .
Right.........here's the thing, while the whole transexuality thing has been gaining audience in the states quite recently, homosexuality, transexuality etc has been around since FOREVER. Look at ancient sculptures and you'll see people sucking each other like it's an art form, it's not as much a big deal as it's made out to be. Look at India, transexuals and homosexuals are a part of her culture, you just have to look at ancient sculptures and textbooks to see how wildly acceptable it was, it was only after british invasion homosexuality got a bad rep, there's still a lot of transexuals and homosexuals living in peace. Most of the trans folks used to only earn money by giving sexual services because some employees weren't open to hiring them(and most of the time they weren't exactly high skilled workers either), so recently even the government has taken an initiative to exclusively hire them, give them quotas etc. Anyway.... my point is, these things while not being the norm has been around since a long looong looooooong time so you don't have to defend a meaningless definition tooth and nail as if, if it was shown as meaningless transexuality would suddenly not make sense.
Another thing to note is, you said you'd determine the gender of a person by looking at cultural points. I take it you meant you'll look at what masculinity or femininity is considered as in a society to determine gender, right?
So if a society considers certain behavioral characteristics as "masculine" and a person show these behavioral characteristics you'll take it that this person is male gendered(I take it that's what you meant when you said you'll look at cultural points to determine gender).
What if this person that was born a man that does masculine things and has masculine interests but identifies as a woman? Now as per this definition a man with masculine interests, having culturally masculine traits can't identify as a woman, so only men having culturally accepted feminine traits can identify as a woman? I'm not saying that's what you're implying because I know you probably have best intentions at heart but still, I want to point out while you have the best intentions at heart it can still get you the opposite results. That kind of thinking(people showing culturally accepted masculine traits are male gender and people showing culturally accepted feminine traits are female gender) can reinforce gender stereotypes. Meh, I this these kinds of over complicating trivial things, forming complex definitions and fighting over it's validity is silly, let people be what they want to be. End if story. Everybody's happy. ☺️
1. Transgender is not a personnel assigned identity it's a medically assign category. So your notion above is wrong.
2. My definition of Transgender (which is different then transsexual ) is based on the APA definition which states
3. Transsexualism is not the same as Transgenderism
Quote:Transgender is an umbrella term for persons whose gender identity, gender expression or behavior does not conform to that typically associated with the sex to which they were assigned at birth.http://www.apa.org/topics/lgbt/transgender.aspx
Also the rest is addressed here
https://debunkingdenialism.com/2017/03/0...-declined/
And here
https://debunkingdenialism.com/2013/12/0...-delusion/
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