(November 18, 2017 at 2:07 pm)johan Wrote:(November 18, 2017 at 4:21 am)Martian Mermaid Wrote: It's different if there's consent...It can really suck if someone just suddenly gropes a girl out of no where(or I guess it could also happen to guys).
Its happened to me and I'm a guy. But I never felt violated or like a victim because of it. I always just chalked it up as an unwanted advance which I put a stop to, i.e. something that happens to everyone now and then.
Now if one of those women who gave me an unwanted dick squeeze and oral tongue inspection were become say, a US senator. And if I were working for some sort of major news media company and possibly looking to make a name for myself....![]()
Ok now I admit I am fully aware that I'm leaving out a huge factor in all this. And that is that in every single case of women trying to force themselves on me, I never for a moment felt the least bit like I would not be able to stop the advance. IOW rape was never on the menu in my mind. I strongly suspect that for most women, that is almost always not the case. And that is a significant factor here.
But still, the kiss in question in Franken's case was in the course of rehearsing or performing some sort of skit. I've not seen clarification either way but one would assume they were not alone at the time in such a situation. Pretty hard to be raped when you're in a room full of witnesses.
Which brings me back to if one of those women who tried to lick my tonsils were to become a senator and I were working for a major news outlet....
Wasn't there more than a kiss? A kiss is not so bad, but more than that can be pretty creepy, witnesses around or not, if you feel like you can't stop them. It can still be pretty upsetting.
The bugle sounds as the charge begins
But on this battlefield no one wins
But on this battlefield no one wins
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