RE: Please describe your god's loyalty reward scheme.
November 18, 2017 at 6:29 pm
(This post was last modified: November 18, 2017 at 6:34 pm by Aroura.)
(November 18, 2017 at 1:40 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Yeah, Christianity is very diverse in certain details. But at the end of the day, the fundamental principles of Christianity are mostly still the same throughout most denominations worldwide (unless we're talking about a fringe group like the Westboros, etc).I do appreciate your open mind and tolerant worldview of others, very much. Yet, you say this (my bold) after literally disagreeing with nearly everything AM said about his beliefs. You differ on who may get into heaven, what heaven is, how people attain states of grace and/or reach heaven. You essentially differ on what is important both in this life and in the next. Yet you still maintain that "the fundamental principles of Christianity are mostly still the same throughout most denominations worldwide".
So long as Christians live out the corporal works of mercy and try to follow the teachings of Christ, the smaller details like whether the OT is allegory vs historical fact, who goes to Heaven, etc, doesn't bother me.
I'm not angry or anything, just utterly puzzled how you can disagree on such extremely important, and not even nitpicky points of faith. But broad, and again, important points, and yet still say you are fundamentally the same.
To me, it seems very clear that your religion is as different from his as it is from Shinto or Wicca. You have nothing in common except you both claim your faith dates back to a man with the same name. Everything else seems pretty different. Just sharing this from my outsider POV.
(November 18, 2017 at 12:01 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:Also, thank you for this answer. This is possibly my favorite thing you've ever said. It lets me know you are truly very understanding of how others not in your own in-group think, including those who lack belief. I bet most people here on AF would say basically this exact same thing in response to any version of pascals wager.(November 18, 2017 at 3:16 am)Hammy Wrote: Nor would I. But I would say things to make a point.
Seriously though, it would be dishonest if I pretended to take Christianity any more seriously than Zeus.
I also notice that you would take Buddhists seriously and genuinely be interested but if someone believed in Zeus which is considered mythology you would consider that different merely because it's less popular. But it's no less absurd. The religions of today are exactly like the mythology of tomorrow.
I am about there not being one. Doesn't that ever worry you?
1. Yeah, it's pretty fundamental to Christian teaching, if that's what you mean.
2. No, it really doesnt....
...One because I do feel confident in my belief that everyone who goes to Hell will be there from their own deliberate choosing, and it won't be like "Whoops! You were Hindu and not Christian, too bad!" Or "Looks like you never got baptised/had a confession, tough luck!" I cant imagine a God so infinitely huge and all knowing being so petty.
...And two, if I am wrong, there's really no point in being worried about. It will be what it will be regardless of what i do or don't believe to be true, so besides making my best inference, there's nothing much else I can do.
“Eternity is a terrible thought. I mean, where's it going to end?”
― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead
― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead