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Charles Manson, dead at age 83
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RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83
(November 21, 2017 at 11:48 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: .
Also, I don't think having schizophrenia means that person is not responsible for anything they do, ever. If they go into some kind of black out episode or manic state and kill someone during that time, then yes, they are innocent for reason of insanity. If they plan for it, premeditate it, try to cover their tracks, etc, that's pretty good indication that they were lucid and competent enough for a guilty verdict.

(November 21, 2017 at 11:46 am)Aroura Wrote: What, in your opinion, is the purpose of prison?

Do you think criminally insane people should free to go?

People who are innocent for reason of insanity go to a mental institution until they are deemed by the psychiatrists there that they are no longer a threat to society.
I do agree he should be in a mental institution.  But I think all criminals should be treated as such, helped until they are no longer a threat.  
Not tossed away like garbage.

Most criminally insane people are never deemed no longer a threat, however.  My mother in law was a nurse at the Oregon state mental hospital for decades.  Sadly, they aren't really treated better (or much differently), from someone in prison, (and Manson did get psychiatric treatment in prison). 


What is your answer to the second question.  What is the purpose of prisons?  And to differentiate for me, can you tell me the purpose of mental institutions?  Do you think they have, ultimately, different purposes?

You said you think he belonged in prison, despite his psychiatric diagnosis.  Have you ever seen him?



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Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Aroura - November 20, 2017 at 3:19 pm
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Rev. Rye - November 20, 2017 at 9:29 pm
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by AFTT47 - November 20, 2017 at 10:16 pm
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Fireball - November 21, 2017 at 12:21 am
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Ravenshire - November 20, 2017 at 10:40 pm
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Catholic_Lady - November 21, 2017 at 12:32 am
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Grandizer - November 21, 2017 at 2:19 am
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Catholic_Lady - November 21, 2017 at 10:55 am
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Grandizer - November 21, 2017 at 11:27 am
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Catholic_Lady - November 21, 2017 at 11:31 am
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Aroura - November 21, 2017 at 11:39 am
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Catholic_Lady - November 21, 2017 at 11:44 am
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Aroura - November 21, 2017 at 11:46 am
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Grandizer - November 21, 2017 at 11:43 am
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Edwardo Piet - November 21, 2017 at 7:02 pm
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Grandizer - November 21, 2017 at 7:05 pm
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Edwardo Piet - November 22, 2017 at 6:56 am
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Grandizer - November 22, 2017 at 7:11 am
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Rev. Rye - November 21, 2017 at 1:03 am
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Aroura - November 21, 2017 at 4:15 am
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Rev. Rye - November 21, 2017 at 10:32 am
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by The Industrial Atheist - November 22, 2017 at 11:25 am
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Rev. Rye - November 22, 2017 at 12:23 pm
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by The Industrial Atheist - November 22, 2017 at 12:57 pm
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Cyberman - November 22, 2017 at 1:33 am
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by paulpablo - November 21, 2017 at 2:15 am
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by c172 - November 21, 2017 at 4:17 am
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Rev. Rye - November 21, 2017 at 11:22 am
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Catholic_Lady - November 21, 2017 at 11:48 am
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Grandizer - November 21, 2017 at 11:52 am
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Catholic_Lady - November 21, 2017 at 11:56 am
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Grandizer - November 21, 2017 at 12:02 pm
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Rev. Rye - November 21, 2017 at 12:29 pm
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Aroura - November 21, 2017 at 11:59 am
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Aroura - November 21, 2017 at 12:05 pm
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Grandizer - November 21, 2017 at 12:08 pm
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Catholic_Lady - November 21, 2017 at 12:35 pm
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Grandizer - November 21, 2017 at 1:07 pm
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Catholic_Lady - November 21, 2017 at 1:20 pm
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Grandizer - November 21, 2017 at 6:34 pm
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Catholic_Lady - November 22, 2017 at 10:32 am
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Minimalist - November 21, 2017 at 1:27 pm
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Aroura - November 21, 2017 at 1:45 pm
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Brian37 - November 21, 2017 at 2:01 pm
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by CapnAwesome - November 21, 2017 at 2:14 pm
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by LastPoet - November 21, 2017 at 2:28 pm
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Minimalist - November 21, 2017 at 2:20 pm
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Minimalist - November 21, 2017 at 3:42 pm
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by paulpablo - November 22, 2017 at 2:25 am
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Gawdzilla Sama - November 22, 2017 at 11:31 am
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Rev. Rye - November 22, 2017 at 2:14 pm
RE: Charles Manson, dead at age 83 - by Rev. Rye - November 22, 2017 at 1:06 pm

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