RE: On this world if humans ceased to exist would god cease to exist?
November 23, 2017 at 1:07 am
(This post was last modified: November 23, 2017 at 2:04 am by Godscreated.)
(November 22, 2017 at 3:48 pm)The Gentleman Bastard Wrote:(November 22, 2017 at 5:35 am)Godscreated Wrote: There are no inconsistencies in the Bible
GC
No inconsistencies? Well, what about straight up mistakes? Any of those in your buy-bull?
No, the Bible is a spiritual book and if you take it differently than what it's meant to be you could find what you believe to be inconsistencies or mistakes.
GC
(November 22, 2017 at 3:42 pm)Succubus Wrote:(November 22, 2017 at 5:35 am)Godscreated Wrote: ...There are no inconsistencies in the Bible...
GC
I couldn’t find this in mh.brewer's PDF, but anyway here it is:
Who was at the empty tomb?
Mark - Three women visit Jesus’ tomb: Mary Magdalene , a second Mary, and Salome.
Matthew - Two women visit Jesus’ tomb: Mary Magdalene and another Mary.
Luke - At least five women visit Jesus’ tomb: Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James, Joanna, and “other women.”
John - One woman visits Jesus’ tomb: Mary Magdalene.
.....When did they visit the tomb?
Mark - They arrive after sunrise.
Matthew - They arrive at about dawn.
Luke - It is early dawn when they arrive.
John - It is dark when they arrive......Was the door open?
Mark, Luke, John - The stone in front of Jesus’ tomb had been rolled away.
Matthew - The stone in front of Jesus’ tomb was still in place and would be rolled away later.
.....Who greets the women?
Mark - The women enter the tomb and meet one young man in there.
Matthew - An angel arrives during an earthquake and rolls the stone away, and sits on it outside. Pilate’s guards are also there.
Luke - The women enter the tomb, and two men suddenly appear — it’s not clear if they are inside or outside.
John - The women do not enter the tomb, but there are two angels sitting inside......What do the women do?
[url=https://www.thoughtco.com/jesus-resurrection-and-the-empty-tomb-248770][/url] Mark - The women keep quiet, despite being told to spread the word.
Matthew - The women go tell the disciples.
Luke - The women tell “the eleven and to all the rest.”
John - Mary stays to cry while the two disciples just go home......
Empty tomb, I guess you haven't heard of people giving different details about the same event have you, it happens and they all can be correct. Go ask an officer who has investigate a crime.
Visit the tomb, All the accounts have them arriving early in the morning of the same day, you're trying to make a big deal out of something that rational people can see clearly.
Open tomb, All the accounts say the tomb was open, Matthew gives the details on how it was opened.
Who greets the women, All the accounts say or suggest that angels were present and greeted the women, again different people giving slightly different details about the same event. You made a mistake, the guards did not belong to Pilate, they were Temple guards.
What the women did, We may not have a complete work of Mark, the last few verses could have been added later. The other three all agree that the women went and told the disciples. In John that is Mary's second trip to the empty tomb.
You haven't a leg to stand on, each story is told by a different person giving different details about the same event, none of the details are inconsistent with the others just more or less detail. You are trying to pick apart a story that is solid and consistent in all four gospels. The tomb was found empty the morning the women went to it, there were angels there and there is a detail of the resurrection that was given in only one gospel that you didn't even notice, can you find it and if so what is the significance of this detail.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.