A couple additions to the thread. This group (the forum) is primarily 21st century 1st world middle class white humanists. And what several have settled on is "Liking to watch people punching eachother in the head until they're unconscious isn't so bad, because they chose to do it, and it probably won't have any long term effects."
I'd point out pain killers addiction, brain trauma, and life long injuries are going to wreck the quality of life of many participants. I'd also point out that I can go find a couple homeless guys, offer them 1000 each to hit eachother with bricks and probably get some willing combatants. I'm sure there's an amount of money I could offer people to play russian roulette with. My point being the 'choice' and 'money' that the participants have doesn't change the role of the viewer.
We've prettied it up. After all, we're decent empathetic people. But the essence of what it is hasn't changed.
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Now that's 21st century 1st world middle class white humanists. We dial it back to 20th century Uganda, and soldiers with aids are raping people willy nilly. 20th century Germany is cooking people. Slavery and genocide are par for the course in human history.
If I lit a bunch of people on fire because they were witches, some might think of that as sociopathic or pyschopathic behavior. But that was like a hobby in Massachusetts a while back.
My point being, I think what we intuitively think of as neurotypical for humans may be way off.
I'd point out pain killers addiction, brain trauma, and life long injuries are going to wreck the quality of life of many participants. I'd also point out that I can go find a couple homeless guys, offer them 1000 each to hit eachother with bricks and probably get some willing combatants. I'm sure there's an amount of money I could offer people to play russian roulette with. My point being the 'choice' and 'money' that the participants have doesn't change the role of the viewer.
We've prettied it up. After all, we're decent empathetic people. But the essence of what it is hasn't changed.
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Now that's 21st century 1st world middle class white humanists. We dial it back to 20th century Uganda, and soldiers with aids are raping people willy nilly. 20th century Germany is cooking people. Slavery and genocide are par for the course in human history.
If I lit a bunch of people on fire because they were witches, some might think of that as sociopathic or pyschopathic behavior. But that was like a hobby in Massachusetts a while back.
My point being, I think what we intuitively think of as neurotypical for humans may be way off.
