(November 30, 2017 at 2:05 am)Haipule Wrote:(November 29, 2017 at 4:17 am)Godscreated Wrote: Are you disagreeing with me or agreeing. I understand what Jesus has taught through the inspired word we call the Bible. The word definitions you give are Greek and they often have meanings that are many words where the English language generally uses one or two words. The meanings are generally the same or at least understood to be the same and those words are not stupid they are what we who speak English use.Really? Are you blind? To "believe" is to accept the nonsense you have been fed! To trust is to be fed by the One whom promised to feed you when that is impossible for you! The difference is HUGE! One is academic nonsense! The other is survival!
I believe what I described was pretty much the same as you were trying to say, I do not need the Greek to understand what the Bible says, I do use the Greek words to clarify some passages when needed. Please tell me the difference between belief and trust, I see them as one and the same?
GC
No I'm not blind, I've been given sight by the God of the universe because I have believed. I live in a relationship with Him, a relationship that has given me great joy and one where I do not condemn other Christians (except when they are completely out of line) because we are brothers and sisters in Christ. We are to live a life to uphold the name of Christ as Savior of this world.
You on the other hand are just playing around with words and taking away from lifting Christ before others.
Haipule Wrote:The people on this forum call themselves atheists. I see more love in them then ANY Christian forum I've ever been on! These people are NOT useless! They are valuable! So what? They don't except your useless "gospel"?
The gospel that I adhere to is the only one by which you can be saved, it is the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God the Father and the One who sends the Holy Spirit to us. I'm not sure what gospel you might adhere to but I can tell you this if it's not the one of Jesus Christ you are in as much trouble as the atheist here.
If this little stunt is to gain popularity with the atheist here then shame on you for even associating yourself with the God of the universe. I might not be very popular here with some or even most of the atheist but I do give them the truth about my God and Savior, so you go right ahead and play around with words and in the end we will see where that gets you.
Haipule Wrote:The Bible separates sheep from goats, not 'believers' and 'unbelievers'! Many of the people I have met here are not biblical goats! They are just unique sheep whom love and wish to me useful! And that, without the ecclesiastical nonsense!
No it doesn't, Christ is the one who will separate the sheep and the goats, the Bible is a book to guide people to salvation and then guide those who choose God in a living relationship with Him. You my friend are the one full of nonsense. Actually I have great doubt that you are nothing other than a fraud because you are misrepresenting the gospel of Christ.
Haipule Wrote:Do you know why many here are atheist? Because the alternative is to be useless! It's not their fault that the universal church completely sucks!
The atheist here are responsible for their unbelief, not the church. God doesn't have to work through the church to reach out to people, He does it many times by single individuals that are a part of the greater church. I've never said the atheist here are useless, what I have said is they are useless for the work of God. He will use them to exalt Himself and in a case like that they are very much of a use to God. The more you talk the more I suspect you are not who you say you are.
Haipule Wrote:You attack the autographed language of Paul and Peter? Your understanding of God's word is NOT God's word! Your just hundreds of years of, "Polly want a Cracker?!"
Tell me were do I attack Peter and Paul and how exactly do I do this thing you accuse me of? Who has made you the judge of other Christians? Do you have answers to these questions if so I would very much love to see them.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.