(December 2, 2017 at 11:37 am)PhilosophicalZebra Wrote: "Tell me exactly how god gives the universe greater meaning."
It give the universe greater meaning because if it were to exist it would mean the following: We may one day be reunited with our family members and friends who have passed on;
And? Would you want to exist with them for eternity? Eternity is a very long time....
Quote:there will be justice and judgments for both the good and bad;
And from what authority will this judgement come from? One that is worthy of following? One that is valid? And what manner of punishment for the bad?
Quote:we are each of value, indispensable, and worthy of love;
How does being an atheist preclude any of that (hint: it doesn't).
Quote:and the world was created with some greater purpose in mind rather than just from a sheer cold happenstance
I find sheer 'cold' happenstance to be far more amazing than the idea that all of this was purpose built. Because if it was, the creator was pretty shitty in its design, and it calls into question everything from its power, to its intelligence, to its morality.
Quote:to name just a few. On the contrary, and if you disagree please provide a solid argument, nothing more than the following can be extrapolated from an atheistic work view: we're all just animals who have no real significance in this world, we are all going to die and never return, nothing we ever do will ever really have any lasting meaning, and the world is built on nothing more than cold, random forces.
Ah, the old "all you're left with is nihilism, which is depressing" canard. Nihilism is a starting point, not an end point. It means we can create our own significance and meaning from an empty canvas.
Again, you were a shitty atheist. Not because we disagree, but because you stopped at the halfway mark. My attitude doesn't stem just from confidence in my beliefs, but in the fact that even if there is a god, it's had as much of an impact on my daily life as nothing at all. I don't need a god, even if there is one.