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Views beyond Atheism
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RE: Views beyond Atheism



Good post Sponge,

I think this is a question a lot of us have probably asked ourselves at one time or another. I don't think we should ignore any paticular demographic group religious or secular, it's only in being aware of the feeling of each individual group we can gauge the potential for problems or unrest etc.. Personally I do find aspects of religion determental to not only society as a whole but also the individuals affected by them, for instnace many religion promote 'faith' as the highest achievement over logical enquiry and free thought that can only serve to dull your perceptions and your mind. While I have no problem with those who wish to practice a personal belief in God or the subtle religions proposed by the like of Bonhoeffer I do take issue with evangelical religion, especially that which prays on people in time of vaulnerability to aid their own ends.

(May 10, 2009 at 8:30 pm)Sponge Wrote: Do you think there is a difference between presenting a belief to someone and indoctrination?

Absolutley, presenting a belief is when you give someone of equal intelectual capacity (i.e. the same age etc...) a chance to consider and evaluate your beliefs and make their own decision. Indoctrination id when you pray on the young or otherwise vaulnerable part of society and breach your beliefs to them as inescapable truths they must either accept or reject and suffer for it in someway.

(May 10, 2009 at 8:38 pm)Sponge Wrote: So, should indoctrination be prevented, or should it be allowed in the name of free speech (no matter how bias)?

Indoctrination should be prevented, just as we would prevent people being indoctrinated into a suicide cult etc... It's a matter of protecting those who cannot protect themselves not obstructing the preachers 'right' to free speech. Do not get me wrong I have no issue with the teaching of religion but in line with my comments above, I hold indoctrination as a seperate issue.

Regards

Sam
"We need not suppose more things to exist than are absolutely neccesary." William of Occam

"Our doubts are traitors, and make us lose the good we oft might win by fearing to attempt" William Shakespeare (Measure for Measure: Act 1, Scene 4)

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Views beyond Atheism - by Sponge - May 10, 2009 at 5:53 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 10, 2009 at 6:10 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by WWLD - May 10, 2009 at 6:22 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 10, 2009 at 6:30 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by WWLD - May 10, 2009 at 6:33 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 10, 2009 at 7:25 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Sponge - May 10, 2009 at 7:36 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 10, 2009 at 7:50 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Sponge - May 10, 2009 at 7:55 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 10, 2009 at 8:09 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 10, 2009 at 8:10 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 10, 2009 at 8:14 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 10, 2009 at 8:22 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Sponge - May 10, 2009 at 8:16 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Demonaura - May 10, 2009 at 8:27 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Sponge - May 10, 2009 at 8:30 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 10, 2009 at 8:31 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Tiberius - May 10, 2009 at 8:36 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Sponge - May 10, 2009 at 8:38 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 12, 2009 at 5:43 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 10, 2009 at 8:38 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 10, 2009 at 8:45 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 10, 2009 at 8:54 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 10, 2009 at 9:02 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by leo-rcc - May 11, 2009 at 4:30 am
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Giff - May 11, 2009 at 7:56 am
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 11, 2009 at 8:03 am
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by g-mark - May 11, 2009 at 8:07 am
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 11, 2009 at 8:25 am
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Giff - May 11, 2009 at 8:12 am
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Giff - May 11, 2009 at 8:27 am
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 11, 2009 at 8:38 am
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 11, 2009 at 5:05 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 11, 2009 at 5:19 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 11, 2009 at 6:53 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 11, 2009 at 8:04 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Giff - May 12, 2009 at 4:06 am
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 12, 2009 at 2:56 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 12, 2009 at 3:55 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 12, 2009 at 4:09 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 12, 2009 at 7:14 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Sam - May 12, 2009 at 5:21 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 12, 2009 at 7:24 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 12, 2009 at 7:48 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 12, 2009 at 7:54 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 12, 2009 at 8:01 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 12, 2009 at 8:05 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 12, 2009 at 8:10 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 12, 2009 at 8:22 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 12, 2009 at 8:33 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 12, 2009 at 8:44 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 13, 2009 at 6:16 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 13, 2009 at 6:26 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 13, 2009 at 6:59 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 13, 2009 at 7:08 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 13, 2009 at 7:25 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Giff - May 14, 2009 at 4:04 am
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 14, 2009 at 3:55 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 14, 2009 at 7:52 am
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Giff - May 14, 2009 at 9:46 am
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 14, 2009 at 9:58 am
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by g-mark - May 14, 2009 at 11:10 am
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Kyuuketsuki - May 14, 2009 at 3:34 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 14, 2009 at 3:58 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 14, 2009 at 5:37 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 14, 2009 at 6:21 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 15, 2009 at 3:46 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 15, 2009 at 3:51 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 15, 2009 at 4:14 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 15, 2009 at 7:14 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 16, 2009 at 2:55 am
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 16, 2009 at 7:16 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 17, 2009 at 5:52 am
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 17, 2009 at 8:54 am
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 17, 2009 at 1:12 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Darwinian - May 17, 2009 at 1:15 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Kyuuketsuki - May 17, 2009 at 3:10 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 17, 2009 at 1:34 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 17, 2009 at 2:27 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 17, 2009 at 3:01 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 17, 2009 at 3:45 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 17, 2009 at 4:07 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Kyuuketsuki - May 17, 2009 at 5:11 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 17, 2009 at 6:41 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 17, 2009 at 7:04 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 18, 2009 at 4:42 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 18, 2009 at 11:03 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 19, 2009 at 3:42 am
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 19, 2009 at 6:40 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by fr0d0 - May 20, 2009 at 1:52 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by g-mark - May 20, 2009 at 2:01 pm
RE: Views beyond Atheism - by Edwardo Piet - May 20, 2009 at 2:35 pm

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