(May 12, 2009 at 4:47 pm)[email protected] Wrote: First question - Why not take a position? Because I simply don't have one as it is not currently a relevant concern to my life right now.So why did you feel it necessary to make your opening that way if you didn' t think it was relevant?
(May 12, 2009 at 4:47 pm)[email protected] Wrote: Second statement - Delusion over what is real in the sense of a belief is irrelevant.
To you maybe.
(May 12, 2009 at 4:47 pm)[email protected] Wrote: A belief doesn't imply knowledge. I find it interesting that most astronomers believe that there is intelligent life on other planets and once you mention the possibility that we might be the only intelligent life forms in the universe they manifest an almost religious position against that possibility.
They just look at the odds and find that idea improbable. If you think that is an almost religious position then I think you haven't met any true fundies yet.
(May 12, 2009 at 4:47 pm)[email protected] Wrote: Third statement - It wasn't my point to mention that they couldn't make a difference so much as they might need inspiration to make a difference.
And then again they might not. If anything that says more about those people than anything else. What is your point?
(May 12, 2009 at 4:47 pm)[email protected] Wrote: Fourth statement - Beliefs being justified. It doesn't stand to reason that a belief would have any jurisdiction for some justification.
Can you translate that in an English a foreigner like me can relate to? Because I read this about 5 times now and I have no clue what you mean by that.
(May 12, 2009 at 4:47 pm)[email protected] Wrote: A belief of hypothesis is usually the precondition before a universal truth is uncovered.
Those hypotheses didn't just pop up out of the blue, some basis was laid for those truths were uncovered.
(May 12, 2009 at 4:47 pm)[email protected] Wrote: Fifth statement - How does one's motivation for life have any less effect if the conditions surrounding that motivation are based on illusion? You seem to believe that action cannot exist without the justification of that action.
Well then you would be wrong. It is completely irrelevant. But as a rule you are better equipped to make the right decisions based on things that ARE real as opposed to pure speculation or fantasy/delusions.
(May 12, 2009 at 4:47 pm)[email protected] Wrote: When a gun is pointed at your head and you say don't shoot because you wish to tell the shooter that his motivations are based on an illusion you won't accomplished much,
You assume I will try to reason with a guy holding a gun at me? Think again.
(May 12, 2009 at 4:47 pm)[email protected] Wrote: you might possibly buy a little time before the trigger is pulled but you might be insane to try to out reason a person's belief.
How do you jump from "This motivation might be metaphorically named as being the spirit." from nutcase blowing my brains out as a reasoning for your assertion?
(May 12, 2009 at 4:47 pm)[email protected] Wrote: Sixth statement. Israel is a very technologically savvy country with a very strong religious core.
And Sweden doesn't have a religious core and is just as advanced if not more so. Neither does Holland, Denmark, Switzerland. Isreal is also one of these countries that feel the first hand results of those "empowered and motivated" people when they blow themselves up in public transport.
Best regards,
Leo van Miert
Horsepower is how hard you hit the wall --Torque is how far you take the wall with you
Leo van Miert
Horsepower is how hard you hit the wall --Torque is how far you take the wall with you
