RE: List of reasons to believe God exists?
December 7, 2017 at 11:01 am
(This post was last modified: December 7, 2017 at 11:11 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(December 7, 2017 at 10:40 am)SteveII Wrote: Abortion advocates have elevated a right of the mother in favor of the right of the child. SubjectiveNo, they haven't..this is one of many reasons that your opinion is wrong. Nor is anything above an issue of subjectivity in the first place. So that's twice you were factually wrong and there's nothing subjective about it.
Quote:A child 10 minutes before birth has little or no rights and can be terminated. 20 minutes later-- murder. SubjectiveWhere, Hell-holistan? Now you're not only factually wrong you're being intentionally duplicitous..and -still- haven;t managed to point out any subjectivity. You just keep typing the word.
Quote:If a pregnant mother is murdered, someone can be charged with a double-murder. If the mother kills the baby, it's okay. Subjective.You mean..there's no difference between murder and killing? You seem to think otherwise elsewhere..and yet again, you've failed to establish any subjectivity.
You did, however, in each and every case, use the term "subjective" as a placeholder for what you found to be "wrong". This is -why- you cannot competently comment on objective morality (or in this case objective statements regarding legality). You don't know what it is. You take and communicate whatever it is you think a fairy said to be the definition of objective and right...and whatever you don't agree with to be the definition of subjective and wrong. Your failure, and frankly the failure of your religion these past centuries..in this regard..holds a mirror up to and explains the failure of those who respond as reactionaries -to- that failure by denying the existence of any moral facts. Your mistake precipitates and fuels their mistake.
A productive and informative conversation about objective morality and the relationship between non optimal decisions -could- be had using the legality of abortion as a foil for the process of moral decision-making..but not with you or anyone who has codifed their moral response by the assumption of your commonly shared misapprehensions.
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