List of reasons to believe God exists?

[The Grand Nudger]

The anger is understandable.  Deep sixing our horrid abortion laws and pursuing a different path -actually- led to all of the things they sold as a bill of goods for the benefits keeping abortion illegal.  Not only was their brand stolen, the usurpers did it better...and the same is true of moral realism in the 21st century.

Except for that whole being right in the sight of the lord business, which is the important part....unfortunately this is not relevant to a secular countries laws nor would a secular countries laws make them somehow morally or religiously complicit to whatever it is they think fairies object to.

True enough . I just hope they fail at passing anti abortion laws .Because i imagine it will take a mountain of dead woman from back alley abortions to get them to admit they were wrong .

Ultimately, that's what it took the last time, and it's not as if the mountain would fail to materialize if we turned back the clock.  OTOH, decades of raising sexual awareness (yet another no-no habitually opposed in the sight of the lord) has reduced some of the problem that abortion serves as a solution for.  A terrible and ironic possibility presents itself;  

The gains made by secular people and laws employing the tiniest shred of human decency may have..in the event of a return to theocracy, set up the foundations of society such that said theocracy doesn't implode as it did before.

Thanks Obama! 

@Wallym.
Na, that's your mistake following and being fed by theirs. The framing of the issue as "pro-abortion" was intentionally designed to accomplish exactly what it's accomplished in you. People, in expressing their acceptance of the legality and regulation of abortions are not..in any way, expressing a moral opinion on murdering babies...and most would prefer that no one ever needed or felt compelled to seek an abortion in the first place.

Like I said before..it's possible to have this conversation..but not with people for whom the shared misapprehension is the basis of their understanding of the issue's legality or any moral component. The ball, for yall..has gone beyond left field and is now entering a stable orbit. Nor, for that matter, does being an athiest manifest "perks" such as being for murdering babies. As I already noted, you'll find an explicit instruction to abortion in magic book..but not in any non-existent atheist dogma. Compounding mistakes, is the notion that the intrinsic value of life is somehow related to god belief...it isn't...and couldn't be, because god-value is not intrinsic. It's external and imposed.

See how easy it is to comment, objectively, on all of these issues?