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Theists: What do you mean when you say that God is 'perfect'?
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RE: Theists: What do you mean when you say that God is 'perfect'?
(December 7, 2017 at 2:55 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: In short, it is a dilemma for us, not a dilemma for God. Does a moral system founded on God’s nature adequately serve as an objective standard for our notions of what constitutes the highest good? I would say there are good reasons to suppose that any objective standard would meet, at minimum, the following criteria:

The standard itself would not change.
The standard would not depend on external conditions.
The standard exists independently of any particular moral agent.
The standard must apply universally to all moral agents in all circumstances.
What the what..........................? 

The above does not approach what it means to -be- an objective moral system, is needlessly elaborate in it's failure to accurately describe moral objectivity...and pointless as a godism; what with god (as you describe it) failing 3 of 4, and succeeding only at the arbitrarily circumscribed metric.

Moral objectivity has -nothing- to do with whether or not something is unchanging. Frankly, if the relevant facts of the matter change, then an objective morality would -have- to change to remain objective. Moral objectivity is -defined- by external conditions, it does exist independantly of any particular moral agent (including a god.......), but it -cannot- apply universally to all moral agents in all circumstances...due to it's objectivity.

You appear to be discussing permanence, self referentiality, and absolutism... and -calling- those things moral objectivity.

For reference...the one and only criteria for an objective moral standard...is a standard which makes true moral claims.  That's it, that's all...and nowhere above do you mention that singular, defining, criteria.
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RE: Theists: What do you mean when you say that God is 'perfect'? - by The Grand Nudger - December 7, 2017 at 7:12 pm

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