(December 11, 2017 at 2:02 am)Godscreated Wrote:What you are doing is reinterpreting the bible to suit the facts. Of course you must necessarily do that otherwise the bible has no meaning. I prefer Occam's razor. The bible has no meaning. I do not need to repeat what others have said. I have read the NT no less than 3 times. I still could not find the coherence, consistency and meaning that I was looking for.(December 8, 2017 at 4:05 am)Bow Before Zeus Wrote: Not knowing the hour does not mean that the hour cannot be "imminent". So if it was so "imminent" why didn't it happen?
You're making a statement to a statement that was not implied. I know what Jesus said wouldn't eliminate the hour of being imminent, the fact that it hasn't yet come shows it wasn't imminent. Before you quote the verse where Jesus says that this generation will not pass away is referring to the church not the end of time. If you do not study all the NT and find out what Jesus was referring to in the other verses then you will have no idea of what He is teaching. Repeating what you hear or what you find on the web that's written by nonbelievers doesn't count as a study nor does it prove anything since these very people are out to do one thing, only disprove the Bible.
Quote:Quote:There are some prophecies that are being fulfilled at this time and the time remaining is short.
BBZ Wrote:Yes, I've read Timothy Dailey's "Apocalypse Rising". The prophecies are not being fulfilled. All he has done and all others do is take obscure passages from the bible and interprets them to fit the events occurring today. One could have done that in the year 1,000 CE and still found events that match the biblical passages. And still he has not returned.
No there are things happening today that didn't and couldn't happen in that time. I haven't read that book and I do not need to I have the Bible to get all the information I need to understand. You're right He hasn't come, but it will be sooner than many think and later than others think. The time for this to happen belongs to the Father and it will not happen till that time.
Quote:You have asked a question that has only one answer for those who would live in those times and it would be yes. No need to worry about it, this world will not be here then. There is another verse that says the generation in which Christ will return will know He is coming, they will not know the day or the hour, they will know it will be soon. Those who have predicted the day of His return have gone against what the Bible teaches, I'm assuming they are glory hounds seeking attention because they can't get it any other way.
GC
BBZ Wrote:So, yes, you would give up being a xtian if he has not returned in the year 10,000 CE? What's your tolerance limit? 100,000 CE?
Like I said that would be a question for those that were living in that time and I've said that that time will never come. I have never nor will I ever question that the return of Christ will happen and as I've said it will when the Father tells Christ it is time to return.
GC
A thought experiment is rather simple actually. All you have to do is close your eyes, imaging that it is the year 100,000 and Christ has not returned. How do you feel about that? How do you feel about your religion? Why has he not returned? Time to give it all up???
