(December 15, 2017 at 8:24 am)Fake Messiah Wrote:(December 15, 2017 at 3:30 am)Godscreated Wrote: the Bible says nothing about the sun moving around the earth.Actually there are at least 67 Bible verses about how the Sun is the one that is moving, like:
Psalm 19:6 The sun rises at one end of the heavens and follows its course to the other end. Nothing can hide from its heat.
Come on, we say the same things today. Our calendars today give the time of sun rise and sun set.
FM Wrote:But I get it, you live in denial. You don't want to admit that Bible gives false information, that were then science of the day in line with Babylonians who believed that the Earth is flat, lying on foundations with heaven (firmament) as a semi-spherical vault that nestles down over the earth. Not just that but Paul believed it too and he also believed in heaven being divided in many layers (ever heard of expression 7th heaven? Where do you think that came about?).
Me in denial now that's funny. You're the one who can't even see the simplest of things. Even in Paul's day everyone believed the earth stood still and everything revolved around it, even the most educated. You are trying to mix the spiritual world Paul was speaking of with the physical world. You need to do some real Bible study before you try and argue against the Bible. Your remarks are at best childish.
(December 15, 2017 at 3:30 am)Godscreated Wrote: I do not [think Bible is biology textbook], it's you that tries to argue it is.
FM Wrote:Oh but you do, in the very same post "Biological evolution is false, it hasn't been proven not even close. I have a consistent view point that holds true to the scriptures".
Evolution is false even though the Bible only tells us of the creation. Evolution is a recent ideology and wasn't considered when it was written. You are so far off base with your thinking it's unbelievable.
FM Wrote:It's hard to talk with people like you because you are driven by emotion and I am just looking it with logic and rationalize. You start with wanting something to be true, like the that Bible is 100% accurate in description of world around us and history, yet it's not so you just go into this ridiculous excuses for the Bible that nobody finds credible. At least flat earthers Christians admit that Bible describes Earth as flat, but like any emotional driven people they start coming up with ridiculous conspiracies why majority of people don't think that way.
You've lost your mind, I've not argued from an emotional stand point, I've given relevant information and you are ignoring it because apparently you can't understand even the simplest of things. The bible is correct in all things and you can't prove different. You probably come across this kinda' argument on some atheist site and thought you would bring it here. Do your own work and study the Bible and the times in which it was written. As far as I see you are the only one responding in an emotional way, I can tell you you certainly are not using logic.
FM Wrote:Like you, when I noted that you think that scientists are colluding with the devil to bring more people to hell to which you responded "I have no idea what you are rambling about" and yet all credible scientists say there is plenty of evidence that biological evolution happened to which you say there is no evidence. Are they lying? Why would they say that? Can't they read the Bible? What is their agenda to teach it to children?
The devil is manipulating them, they do not believe in the spiritual. Just as he deceived Adam and Eve he deceives the evolutionary scientist with one big difference, Adam and Eve knew there was a God, they spent every day with Him until the fall. There is no evidence for evolution, none.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.