Men's Rights Movement

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And of course you could pay $$$$ to go to a retreat, organized by said hippies, to run through the woods naked making primal screams.

If you're paying someone for the privilege of running naked through the woods and baying at the moon, you have more problems than not being initiated into 'manhood'. You're an idiot.

#someweirdnessisfree

Yeah I've never even contemplated paying someone when I've ran naked through some woods, or anywhere else for that matter.

I've never tried making primal screams. Not sure why anyone would think that any of this would have anything to do with gender though.

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Yes, men do have disadvantages in society. Funnily enough, due to traditional gender role expectations, which feminists are fighting against. Hence why being "very feminist" (as OP says it) is a very good thing to be.

Depends on the feminist. As I said, there are those who don't give a shit about problems men might have. They only care about traditional gender roles as far as it encumbers them. Talk to them about how traditional gender roles make it hard for men to talk about sexual abuse and they couldn't care less. Being "very feminist" is often a very obnoxious thing to be.

I agree with both of you. I agree with Grandizer about what feminism should be about in freeing up both men and women, and in my non-American experience it generally is. But I also agree that there are is one type of feminist who is basically pissed off at not being the ones able to subjugate everyone else. These are also commonly TERFs and have just as many bigotries as the white straight men that they are angry at. Sometimes they even form alliances with white wing christian conservatives against minorities that they mutually resent.

I don't know about America where everything just seems more extreme, but my experience in the UK is that most feminists are not like this.

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If you're a real man conducting yourself with honor, discipline and intelligence, you won't need a movement to protect you. Things will naturally work out in your favor.

Shame you can't say that about 'real women' conducting themselves with honour, discipline and intelligence.