(November 22, 2017 at 2:16 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:No fire is correct. Before physical death, everyone chooses whether they want separation or connection for their eternal abode. Angels and humans have an additional component over and above other living creatures, the made in the image-of-God 'Spirit' which gives eternal existence and free-will. God places a high value on freedom. He rather have free-will and evil, then no free-will and no evil. Any torment felt by eternal separation is therefore self-imposed. God doesn't have unlimited power since his nature controls his actions; therefore God cannot torment. All contrived supposedly clever question about what God can and cannot do are related to his nature restrictions. This what is meant when God was describing himself to Moses from the unconsuming burning bush: "I AM WHO I AM".(November 22, 2017 at 1:00 pm)Cod Wrote: No possibility of sinning, what's the point of that then? I've lived quite happily without Gods influence up to now, I can cope with being separate from him as long as I'm not on fire.
Everything's better when you're not on fire.
Atheist Credo: A universe by chance that also just happened to admit the observer by chance.