RE: The benefits of being christian. Where are there???
December 24, 2017 at 1:21 pm
(This post was last modified: December 24, 2017 at 1:25 pm by downbeatplumb.)
(December 24, 2017 at 9:01 am)Starhunter Wrote: What benefit is there to being a Christian, as opposed to someone who rejects the truth?
None really, as you said.
If you want to follow Christ, you may expect persecution from society, from your own friends and relatives, and a life of trials, hardship, poverty and suffering etc.
Jesus said, whoever wants to be my disciple, let him take up his cross and deny himself.
Again with the persecution complex! for over a thousand years Christianity has been the main persecutor of other faiths ruthlessly suppressing and murdering all dissenters.
Now that people are starting to see it for what it is they get all butt hurt.
Quote:The Christian life isn't about desperately seeking the best way to pamper yourself.
The implication here is that non-Christians do this. It is an insult disguised as humility.
Quote:But there are benefits of being a Christian which the worlding cannot experience even with the most powerful drugs. And that is an inner calm and peace, cheer, hope and integrity that will not cave in under pressure.
This is not what I see when I see people who self identify as Christians, at least not in the US where they seem to have a lot of anger and hostility and that is before any pressure is applied at all.
Quote:The genuine Christian also lives a life of the highest order, he gains wisdom, insight, perseverence, a refined character, a clear conscience and eternal life, with incredible rewards.
By adding "true" you can discount the vast majority of Christians who in no way resemble what you have put there.
Quote:The life of the wicked, is one of self interest, their ambitions get them the best of this world, but there is no inner calm, just envy, anger, and restlessness. Their will becomes morally weak, and the character perverse. The end result for the wicked, is not only a wasted character, but a ridiculous struggle with no victories, except in personal gain, a vain hope, misery and death.
This seems to describe evangelical perfectly Christians to me.
Quote:It is for the victims of sin/selfishness, all of humanity, that Christ makes every effort and sacrifice to save. Every sin that they have committed has been paid for, and they are entitled to the full reward of eternal life, if they turn up now to work for Christ and not against him.
What does this even mean?
(December 24, 2017 at 1:21 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote:(December 24, 2017 at 9:01 am)Starhunter Wrote: What benefit is there to being a Christian, as opposed to someone who rejects the truth?
None really, as you said.
If you want to follow Christ, you may expect persecution from society, from your own friends and relatives, and a life of trials, hardship, poverty and suffering etc.
Jesus said, whoever wants to be my disciple, let him take up his cross and deny himself.
Again with the persecution complex! for over a thousand years Christianity has been the main persecutor of other faiths ruthlessly suppressing and murdering all dissenters.
Now that people are starting to see it for what it is they get all butt hurt.
https://www.theonion.com/nation-s-oppres...1819578481
Quote:The Christian life isn't about desperately seeking the best way to pamper yourself.
The implication here is that non-Christians do this. It is an insult disguised as humility.
Quote:But there are benefits of being a Christian which the worlding cannot experience even with the most powerful drugs. And that is an inner calm and peace, cheer, hope and integrity that will not cave in under pressure.
This is not what I see when I see people who self identify as Christians, at least not in the US where they seem to have a lot of anger and hostility and that is before any pressure is applied at all.
Quote:The genuine Christian also lives a life of the highest order, he gains wisdom, insight, perseverence, a refined character, a clear conscience and eternal life, with incredible rewards.
By adding "true" you can discount the vast majority of Christians who in no way resemble what you have put there.
Quote:The life of the wicked, is one of self interest, their ambitions get them the best of this world, but there is no inner calm, just envy, anger, and restlessness. Their will becomes morally weak, and the character perverse. The end result for the wicked, is not only a wasted character, but a ridiculous struggle with no victories, except in personal gain, a vain hope, misery and death.
This seems to describe evangelical perfectly Christians to me.
Quote:It is for the victims of sin/selfishness, all of humanity, that Christ makes every effort and sacrifice to save. Every sin that they have committed has been paid for, and they are entitled to the full reward of eternal life, if they turn up now to work for Christ and not against him.
What does this even mean?
You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.
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