(December 27, 2017 at 6:51 pm)Simon Moon Wrote:(December 26, 2017 at 11:38 pm)Godscreated Wrote: For a Christian lying is never acceptable. Christians respect the moral code that God has given us, do we comply always, no we do not we are humans and we fail, we have seen the need of Jesus to redeem us unto God.
Then how do you explain William Lane Craig, Kent Hovind, Ray Comfort, Ken Hamm, Sye Ten Bruggencate...
I have no idea why you mentioned them and frankly do not see how they fit into a conversation where trying to teach a young man something about his life.
SM Wrote:Hypothetical...
Was it morally acceptable for the people (Christians) hiding Anne Frank and her family during WWII, to lie to the Gestapo when they came to search?
That would be called deception not lying, there is a difference. What would you have them do kill her? The Allied Forces used deception to defeat the Germans, did we lie to them, no, should we have told them all our plans for defeating them, no. We didn't lie we fought a war. It seems you have difficulties with what is right and wrong.
Quote: Lying to your parents means you do not trust them nor do you respect them and I can tell you this leads to a dangerous life's choice. Of coarse this is all your call but I see it as a disaster later in life. Facing up to your parents now will in the end have a better result.
SM Wrote:Oh please...
Are you that clueless to understand that there are 1000's of kids that are disowned by their Christian parents for coming out atheists? Or had their finances for college discontinued?
Some of us live in the real world. You should join us some time.
First of all I live in this world the same as everyone else, the difference is that I know truth has rewards that may not be immediately apparent. How do you know how his parents will react, are you omniscient. I can see something far more important than college but I do hope that's what can do, but with a clear conscience. Christian parents who disown their children for believing differently than they do are not following the will of God. Please do not give me the laws of Moses they do not apply in a matter such as this.
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God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.