RE: Do my parents fear that I'll leave the faith?
December 28, 2017 at 8:43 pm
(This post was last modified: December 28, 2017 at 9:02 pm by Godscreated.)
(December 28, 2017 at 9:13 am)Brian37 Wrote:(December 28, 2017 at 8:57 am)Godscreated Wrote: No I did not say that and you know I did not. If you have that much trouble with comprehension then what makes you believe college is the place for you.
GC
Doing good for a bribe, and obeying out of threat, are not moral.
You are correct, what you do not understand those things are not part of Christianity, you've sold yourself on a myth and where you learned this myth was from those trying to destroy Christianity, a biased idea.
Brian37 Wrote:Doing good even when nobody rewards you or hears about it is moral. Neither your God or the split personality/himself are moral. They reflect the same immoral selfish narcissism of the kingships of antiquity. Even in polytheism, humans STUPIDLY saw their success as being magically handed down to them. And those ruling families and warrior classes set up those structures, not for the benefit of surfs, but to enrich the family.
Those people may have set up their powers because they believed God wanted it that way. They were wrong and Christians know this. In Christianity much good is done without people knowing who and those doing good things telling anyone they did so. Get over your biased state of mind, Christians do much good in this world and you have no idea it's being done because we make no big deal of it.
Brian37 Wrote:"Lord" and "Kingdom" do not reflect our modern pluralism.
Lord means our savior and His kingdom is all things that He has, that would include all the saved.
Brian37 Wrote:I am sure Kim Jong Un treats his loyalists well too. But he'll even murder family members to send a message not to cross him.
Kim Jong Un has no one loyal to him read your first sentence in this post. By your own words he has no loyal people.
Brian37 Wrote:You not liking Die's responses does not mean it was not comprehended, it just means Die think's you are full of it.
Just because I disagree with his responses doesn't mean I think he can't comprehend. What I was speaking of he didn't comprehend or he was being an ass. Much like you, proud of your influence on him I bet.
GC
(December 28, 2017 at 10:28 am)Die Atheistin Wrote:(December 28, 2017 at 8:57 am)Godscreated Wrote: No I did not say that and you know I did not. If you have that much trouble with comprehension then what makes you believe college is the place for you.
GC
But
Quote: Those who do such are not secure in their faith, those Christians who do good because it's the right thing to do have no fear of a punishment.
empathy =/= fear of punishment
Christians do good things because they want to, we want to help others and yes please God and none of this is done because of fear, we do so because we love. You've been sold a bill of goods that's not true of Christianity. I know you live in Europe and I do not know how Christians think there, but I would be surprised if it's different than in the US.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.