Men's Rights Movement

[Shell B]

Thump, I didn't suggest that MRA and feminism are equal movements. Sure, one is probably needed more than the other. That doesn't mean that some men don't have legitimate complaints which is basically all I've been trying to say.

Yeah, I'm a man ... I knew that already. There are indeed men with legitimate complaints. But MRA and feminist movements are sure not equal and that's because the grievances aren't equal.

Anyway, I wonder how many battered-men's shelters these MRA guys have funded ... how many pro bono lawyers they provide for custody cases ... versus how many posts on reddit they make. What have they done in terms of practicality to show that they are actually concerned about the complaints they lay? We've got their mouth. Where's their money?

I still haven’t said they are equal, so ...

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There is a damn good reason to be suspicious of male feminists . As a many creeps use feminism as a pick up line .And their have been cases were creeps have used feminist credentials to molest women. As for your notion that i go looking for anti male stuff on the site . These were the most recent and some of the highest rated posts on the site so it's clear the anti male stuff you insist infests the feminist reddit is not there. And i never said there were no negative posts but if they exist (thou i have not found any yet. And i frequently read and know people on feminist reddit   ) they are a blip. Compared to MRA leaders stating the kind of stuff above . So yeah there is that .

Also, the article about feminists not trusting men as allies is more benign than the title makes it sound. I actually read that article a couple hours before Shell brought it up, and there is a bit of a mismatch between what the title says and what the body of the article says. All its saying is to be wary of men who say theyre feminists, not to trust people blindly. And thats fine, I dont want anyone to blindly trust me. I will still support a cause even if its members are naturally going to be wary, because (in this case) Im doing so for my sister and my partner and not merely for myself.

I think it’s fine that you’re a feminist. I’ve never said anyone shouldn’t be. I simply choose to support people when I can without using the label, which isn’t something I thought I’d get so much “you’re like white lives matter” about. I stand by it, though. People bullying me about labels (not yourself) aren’t going to convince me to take them on, though I’m sure that was never the real purpose behind the vitriol.