RE: Under no circumstance should cops KILL
January 5, 2018 at 5:08 pm
(This post was last modified: January 5, 2018 at 5:21 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(January 5, 2018 at 4:51 pm)FFaith Wrote: Yes, it is an extremely unreasonable standard and is pro-dead cop. It can be very reasonable to shoot and kill if a perp is asked to keep their hands where they can be seen and they reach for something in their pocket.Other countries law enforcement officers seem to be able to handle such situations without attendant executions, nor are they "pro-dead cop" for arranging their law enforcement agencies to institutionally implement precisely this standard.
Quote:It doesn't make sense to take guns away from police. Try taking guns away from police in the US right now and see how many of them quit in protest. They need guns to defend their lives. I think cops should keep their guns, even if the citizens lose their gun rights.If you say so. The idea that cops need guns to defend themselves is, imo, based on serial police dramas...not the reality of 9-5 police work. In reality, police here (and elsewhere) do not need those guns, many go without them, and the problem of guns and cops and people being shot..in the us..squarely falls on the shoulders of cops by 64-936. Furthe rirony being that a couple of those 64..were shot and killed by -other- cops..on accident.
Telling me that the problem with taking lessons from other successful law enforcement strategies - which we already are-, is that it will result in a bunch of cops quitting is telling me that you think a bunch of cops will hold law enforcement hostage in this country over their ability to shoot a bitch dead. I don't think that's true. There was resistence to less-than-lethals too, but properly trained equipped, and now acclimated I doubt that any police force can articulate just why they previously took issue to it.
I suspect the same will one day be true of our down-gunned cops. I;m not suggesting in any of this that the police department have no armed response units. No guns. I'm suggesting that the average patroller doesn't, in reality, need a pistol, and obviously the number of armed units can be specifically tailored to the incidence of crime in an area which would justify their presence.
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