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Eternal afterlife
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RE: Eternal afterlife
(January 6, 2018 at 4:23 pm)snowtracks Wrote:
(January 5, 2018 at 10:24 am)Agnosty Wrote: Why would anyone choose separation?  


Don't you know that the fallen nature is enmity with God and will try to protect itself; aka, wrapping the nature with a veneer of intellectualism or other means since it knows that it's held accountable by the moral ruler of the universe?

I know you claim that, but I don't know it.

The fall of man was intellectualism, but the beaver is smart too in building dams, so what constitutes intellectualism is arbitrary, and chimps will gangup to attack a relatively helpless member of their society in the most brutal fashion imaginable (ripping off the testicles and biting off all the fingers) and so where is god's judgement of that?  It would seem, therefore, that all of nature is at enmity with god because all of it fails the test of righteousness in one form or another.

God destroyed the earthlings once in a flood, but for some reason decided to drag along a copy of all his failed creations only for the earth to be repopulated in the same disappointing fashion.  It seems to me that god wants to complain about his struggles to create beings able live up to his unrealistic and impossible expectations.  Either that, or we don't live up to our own expectations and create god for the institutionalization of guilt.

I'm not saying there is no god, but just that I don't think god would operate in that fashion.  It makes no sense and I have no persuading evidence other than someone says so.
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Eternal afterlife - by purplepurpose - November 21, 2017 at 3:48 pm
RE: Eternal hell and heaven - by Minimalist - November 21, 2017 at 3:57 pm
RE: Eternal hell and heaven - by purplepurpose - November 21, 2017 at 4:05 pm
RE: Eternal hell and heaven - by Minimalist - November 21, 2017 at 4:16 pm
RE: Eternal hell and heaven - by vulcanlogician - November 21, 2017 at 4:21 pm
RE: Eternal hell and heaven - by Cyberman - November 21, 2017 at 4:42 pm
RE: Eternal hell and heaven - by Ravenshire - November 21, 2017 at 6:10 pm
RE: Eternal hell and heaven - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 5, 2018 at 10:06 am
RE: Eternal hell and heaven - by Banned - January 19, 2018 at 2:17 am
RE: Eternal hell and heaven - by Brian37 - November 21, 2017 at 4:12 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by The Grand Nudger - November 21, 2017 at 4:38 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Succubus - November 21, 2017 at 6:15 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Cyberman - November 21, 2017 at 6:20 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Haipule - November 21, 2017 at 8:38 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Cyberman - November 21, 2017 at 8:46 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Minimalist - November 21, 2017 at 10:01 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Haipule - November 22, 2017 at 4:44 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by snowtracks - November 21, 2017 at 9:30 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Cod - November 22, 2017 at 1:00 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Angrboda - November 22, 2017 at 2:16 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Cod - November 22, 2017 at 2:29 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Cyberman - November 22, 2017 at 3:00 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by snowtracks - December 23, 2017 at 2:44 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Wyrd of Gawd - December 23, 2017 at 5:09 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Nay_Sayer - January 1, 2018 at 12:51 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by purplepurpose - January 1, 2018 at 12:53 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Whateverist - January 1, 2018 at 12:57 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by pocaracas - January 1, 2018 at 3:49 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Agnosty - January 5, 2018 at 10:24 am
RE: Eternal afterlife - by snowtracks - January 6, 2018 at 4:23 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Agnosty - January 7, 2018 at 4:54 am
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Mr.Obvious - January 7, 2018 at 5:53 am
RE: Eternal afterlife - by snowtracks - January 9, 2018 at 9:21 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Angrboda - January 9, 2018 at 9:25 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Mr.Obvious - January 10, 2018 at 2:35 am
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Harry Nevis - November 22, 2017 at 2:11 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by KiwiNFLFan - November 23, 2017 at 4:17 am
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Wyrd of Gawd - November 28, 2017 at 6:51 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Succubus - November 21, 2017 at 9:49 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by purplepurpose - November 22, 2017 at 12:26 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Aegon - November 22, 2017 at 12:40 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Minimalist - November 22, 2017 at 12:44 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Godscreated - November 25, 2017 at 1:39 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Cod - November 25, 2017 at 4:27 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Godscreated - November 27, 2017 at 6:44 am
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Haipule - November 28, 2017 at 10:18 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Godscreated - November 29, 2017 at 4:17 am
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Haipule - November 30, 2017 at 2:05 am
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Godscreated - November 30, 2017 at 2:59 am
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Haipule - November 30, 2017 at 4:24 am
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Edwardo Piet - November 28, 2017 at 11:22 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Ravenshire - November 29, 2017 at 12:33 am
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Godscreated - November 29, 2017 at 3:52 am
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Edwardo Piet - November 29, 2017 at 8:28 am
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Ravenshire - November 29, 2017 at 1:17 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Cod - November 29, 2017 at 8:59 am
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Fake Messiah - November 29, 2017 at 4:16 am
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Minimalist - November 29, 2017 at 12:45 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Wyrd of Gawd - November 30, 2017 at 3:05 am
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Neo-Scholastic - January 1, 2018 at 3:34 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Agnosty - January 5, 2018 at 10:03 am
RE: Eternal afterlife - by RoadRunner79 - January 5, 2018 at 10:07 am
RE: Eternal afterlife - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - November 28, 2017 at 8:20 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by The Valkyrie - November 28, 2017 at 11:40 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Minimalist - November 29, 2017 at 12:50 am
RE: Eternal afterlife - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - November 29, 2017 at 5:14 am
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Drich - November 29, 2017 at 12:27 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by The Grand Nudger - November 30, 2017 at 12:59 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by The Grand Nudger - January 7, 2018 at 10:21 am
RE: Eternal afterlife - by purplepurpose - January 7, 2018 at 11:26 am
RE: Eternal afterlife - by RoadRunner79 - January 7, 2018 at 2:53 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by purplepurpose - January 7, 2018 at 2:56 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by RoadRunner79 - January 7, 2018 at 3:30 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Gawdzilla Sama - January 10, 2018 at 9:28 am
RE: Eternal afterlife - by The Grand Nudger - January 19, 2018 at 2:19 am
RE: Eternal afterlife - by snowtracks - January 19, 2018 at 4:25 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Cinjin - January 22, 2018 at 9:15 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Banned - January 26, 2018 at 5:55 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Succubus - January 26, 2018 at 8:41 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Cinjin - January 28, 2018 at 12:02 am
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Banned - January 28, 2018 at 3:39 am
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Cinjin - January 28, 2018 at 1:06 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Victory123 - January 29, 2018 at 5:08 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Ravenshire - January 29, 2018 at 11:01 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Banned - February 1, 2018 at 7:49 am
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Sal - February 1, 2018 at 7:56 am
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Cyberman - February 1, 2018 at 3:49 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Ravenshire - February 1, 2018 at 1:03 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Banned - February 2, 2018 at 6:03 am
RE: Eternal afterlife - by snowtracks - February 11, 2018 at 12:46 am
RE: Eternal afterlife - by The Grand Nudger - January 26, 2018 at 7:36 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Cyberman - January 28, 2018 at 12:34 am
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Cyberman - January 28, 2018 at 1:03 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Banned - January 29, 2018 at 8:08 am
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Mister Agenda - January 29, 2018 at 10:58 am
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Victory123 - January 29, 2018 at 5:02 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by vulcanlogician - January 29, 2018 at 5:04 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by pocaracas - January 29, 2018 at 5:55 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by brewer - January 29, 2018 at 6:30 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Cyberman - January 29, 2018 at 7:56 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Cod - January 30, 2018 at 4:50 am
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Minimalist - January 30, 2018 at 12:12 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by polymath257 - January 30, 2018 at 12:19 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Mister Agenda - January 29, 2018 at 6:56 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Victory123 - January 30, 2018 at 6:17 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Mister Agenda - January 30, 2018 at 6:36 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Cyberman - January 30, 2018 at 11:57 am
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Cyberman - January 30, 2018 at 7:42 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by ohreally - January 31, 2018 at 1:17 am
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Cyberman - January 31, 2018 at 12:52 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by The Grand Nudger - February 1, 2018 at 2:04 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by vulcanlogician - February 1, 2018 at 2:21 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by The Grand Nudger - February 2, 2018 at 8:00 am
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Banned - February 2, 2018 at 6:49 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Cod - February 2, 2018 at 7:10 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by The Grand Nudger - February 2, 2018 at 7:07 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Banned - February 2, 2018 at 7:26 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Cyberman - February 2, 2018 at 7:58 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by The Grand Nudger - February 2, 2018 at 8:58 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Banned - February 2, 2018 at 9:16 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by The Grand Nudger - February 2, 2018 at 9:16 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Banned - February 2, 2018 at 9:19 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Cyberman - February 2, 2018 at 9:25 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by The Grand Nudger - February 11, 2018 at 4:46 am
RE: Eternal afterlife - by purplepurpose - February 11, 2018 at 7:38 am
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Cyberman - February 11, 2018 at 7:50 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Banned - February 12, 2018 at 6:01 am
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Abaddon_ire - February 14, 2018 at 8:46 am
RE: Eternal afterlife - by The Grand Nudger - February 12, 2018 at 1:25 pm
RE: Eternal afterlife - by Fake Messiah - February 13, 2018 at 4:38 pm

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