(January 6, 2018 at 4:23 pm)snowtracks Wrote:(January 5, 2018 at 10:24 am)Agnosty Wrote: Why would anyone choose separation?Don't you know that the fallen nature is enmity with God and will try to protect itself; aka, wrapping the nature with a veneer of intellectualism or other means since it knows that it's held accountable by the moral ruler of the universe?
I know you claim that, but I don't know it.
The fall of man was intellectualism, but the beaver is smart too in building dams, so what constitutes intellectualism is arbitrary, and chimps will gangup to attack a relatively helpless member of their society in the most brutal fashion imaginable (ripping off the testicles and biting off all the fingers) and so where is god's judgement of that? It would seem, therefore, that all of nature is at enmity with god because all of it fails the test of righteousness in one form or another.
God destroyed the earthlings once in a flood, but for some reason decided to drag along a copy of all his failed creations only for the earth to be repopulated in the same disappointing fashion. It seems to me that god wants to complain about his struggles to create beings able live up to his unrealistic and impossible expectations. Either that, or we don't live up to our own expectations and create god for the institutionalization of guilt.
I'm not saying there is no god, but just that I don't think god would operate in that fashion. It makes no sense and I have no persuading evidence other than someone says so.