(January 9, 2018 at 10:34 am)Godscreated Wrote:(January 9, 2018 at 6:34 am)Die Atheistin Wrote: So basically God is all-knowing and all powerfull, He has a plan for everyone of us and the suffering He puts us through is necesarry. Yet He needs us inferior sinners to ask him for salvation and other good things. Isn't this interfering with His plan? And if He's all-knowing this means He knew Adam and Eve would eat the forbidden fruit and that the original sin will pass on. So we're basically his pawns in a game of chess which is supposedly against the Devil, but not really since He doesn't have a chance against God and the Devil was created by God too.
God doesn't need anything, if you want to be saved you will have to ask. Some suffering is necessary and some we bring on ourselves. Instead of accepting responsibility for your actions and the results of those actions you want to blame God. You can never interfere with God's plan, he will not allow it. Of coarse He knew Adam and Eve would disobey Him and that sin would destroy mankind if He did not do something about it. We are not pawns in a game, you are evidence of that, you have decided that your rejection of God is an acceptable risk and are willing to suffer eternally if you are wrong.
GC
So God loves me, yet if I don't ask for forgiveness for my sins, one of which I didn't commit, He will send me to Hell? You might reply that I'm sending myself to Hell, no I'm not. He's the one who invented Hell and commaded for all sinners to go there. I can't say that someone being arrested for commiting a crime arrested themselves.
You think it's fair that all humanity was blamed for a mistake two humans made? Todays human justice doesn't see it that way. And why is knowing the difference between wrong and right bad? Doesn't this mean Adam and Eve were amoral? I think that the first step of doing the right thing is knowing the difference between good and bad.
If God is all-knowing this means He knows the future as well. If He knows exactly what is going to happen is He able to change it? If he is able, and the future takes place exactly as He commands, doesn't this mean that our actions take place exactly as He commands as well? You claim we have free will, so He doesn't interfere with that. If he isn't able to, this means he isn't all powerfull. If he is able but not willing then there is power He doesn't use to prevent evil. I see a paradox here. http://en.atheismfacts.org/epicurean-paradox.html
And I don't blame God, I don't believe in Him. I blame the people who invented and used Him for their personal benefit.
"By simple common sense I don't believe in God, in none"
Charlie Chaplin
Charlie Chaplin