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Do my parents fear that I'll leave the faith?
RE: Do my parents fear that I'll leave the faith?
(January 10, 2018 at 4:37 am)Abaddon_ire Wrote:
(January 10, 2018 at 12:27 am)Godscreated Wrote: First you have to accept Jesus as you savior and Lord,

Abaddon_ire Wrote:Sorry, I could not morally accept a monster who advocates murder, genocide, rape, incest, human sacrifice, slavery and so forth as any kind of authority on anything.

I haven't tried to answer this post because of it's length, if you will notice for the last 2 1/2 weeks I have mostly posted short answers, I've been sick with some kind of crud and the antibiotics do not seem to be helping. I'm going to give it a try though but it may take a couple days to do so.

You should read the Ten Commandments for some of your answers. God has never accepted human sacrifice and never will, He actually condemned the Israelites for doing such things. The slavery you are familiar with is not the slavery in the OT. Man instituted slavery not God, you have to understand the times and what the people were like then, God works through people for His plan. It would actually take a large Bible study to address those things you have mentioned and this is not the place for such a study. 

(January 10, 2018 at 12:27 am)Godscreated Wrote: then ask for forgiveness.

Abaddon_ire Wrote:From whom and for what?

From God the creator of coarse, there is no one else that can forgive your sins. You might not like hearing that you are a sinner (I didn't at one time) but it's true nevertheless. I came to accept the truth and found God and live in a great relationship with Him.

(January 10, 2018 at 12:27 am)Godscreated Wrote: What sin do you believe you haven't committed.

Abaddon_ire Wrote:I have committed no sons, but I have committed two daughters. Does that count?

God says only a fool will say he doesn't sin and at the end of your life the truth will be revealed at the judgement. I saw my mistake and corrected it I've had more than usual since I've been sick.
 
(January 10, 2018 at 12:27 am)Godscreated Wrote: They were blamed for the first sin because this allowed sin into the world. We have to suffer the consequences of that disobedience. It doesn't matter what today's humans think or believe, what matter is what God says, He is in total control it is His universe and He can do with it as He sees fit. The only say you have in the matter is saying yes to Jesus. The tree was The tree of knowledge of good and evil, not what's right or wrong. They knew the difference between right and wrong with only one commandment to keep. So you see there's a huge difference in saying right and wrong vs good and evil.

Abaddon_ire Wrote:Except that your god set it all up purposefully. Your god put both trees in the garden of eden and put the serpent in there also. This is called "entrapment".

It's called a test and no God didn't put Lucifer in the Garden. Before Lucifer's fall he actually walked in the Garden with God, see what you could learn by studying the Bible. When Lucifer was thrown out of heaven and to the earth he knew where the Garden was and thus had no trouble finding it. Let's deal with the Tree of Good and Evil, if God had not placed it in the Garden then what kind of obedience would Adam and Eve had to live up to. It was only one commandment and they failed. To obey God is to love Him this is the whole story of loving God and God asks only that we obey Him and recognize when we fail and ask for forgiveness. God did purposely create the Garden and He purposely put both trees in the Garden and He allowed Lucifer to tempt them, it wasn't God who tempted them He has promised to never tempt us and yes testing is totally different from temptation.

Abaddon_ire Wrote:Furthermore, neither Adam nor Eve had the foggiest clue that it would be in any way wrong to eat from the tree of knowledge until after they had done so.

I knew you did not know much about the scriptures but with this statement I do not believe you have ever read the Bible. My argument against what you have said lies in the first three chapters of Genesis, I'm not going to tell you specifically where, I challenge you to read those chapters and find my argument, it will be as plain as the nose on your face. It's time you see that reading the Bible will help you from making such a basic mistake.

Abaddon_ire Wrote:Furthermore, your god pooped his panties and paniced when they did.

My argument for this is also in the first three chapters of Genesis, search for it while you're reading for the other answer. I will say this, how is it that God being omniscient and omnipresent would have been surprised by what they did, he knew what was to happen before He created the universe. This last sentence might help you find the answer to your statement.

Abaddon_ire Wrote:Furthermore, none of this ever happened anyway. No god, no eden, no trees, no talking snake, no Adam, no Eve. None of it.

Seeing how you're the one making this positive claim it's your responsibility to prove your claim.

(January 10, 2018 at 12:27 am)Godscreated Wrote: This is easy, wrong is disobedience of God's will and right is doing the will of God obediently.

Abaddon Wrote:How many slaves do you own? Owning slaves is not only your god's will he/she/it/housecat even provides a user manual in the bible.

Who said I owned slaves and no the Bible puts restrictions on how man is to treat slaves and slavery was instituted by man not God. God did allow slavery and for what purpose I'm not sure, what I am sure of is that God did not institute slavery.

(January 10, 2018 at 12:27 am)Godscreated Wrote: No He can't change it, that would interfere with your free choice between heaven and hell. God has already lived and continually does live the future.

Abaddon_ire Wrote:Evidence?

If He changed it then you would have no free will period and without free will you can not show your love for God to Him. Simple really. As far as God living the future every day this is easily explained, He is omnipresent, this allows Him to live in all time at all times. 

(January 10, 2018 at 12:27 am)Godscreated Wrote: He can't change the future so the rest of your posit has no bearing on the conversation.Your god is thus not omnipotent. What a strangely weak god you have.

(January 10, 2018 at 12:27 am)Godscreated Wrote: What personal benefit? God will not prevent all evil,

Abaddon_ire Wrote:And you reinforce your weak god.

Yeah right, He created the universe and you call Him weak. There are somethings God can't do because they go against who He is and to go against himself would be sinful and God has said He can not sin nor even be tempted to sin. If God were to go against himself the His house would be divided and that just will not happen.

(January 10, 2018 at 12:27 am)Godscreated Wrote: He allowed a great evil to come upon the Son

Abaddon_ire Wrote:Nope. The son had a bad weekend. Nothing more.

The further you go into this post the more ridiculous you are becoming, you should have stopped a while back. You not knowing what Christ suffered have no idea what He went through. I bet if it were you that was hung on that cross you wouldn't call it a bad weekend.

(January 10, 2018 at 12:27 am)Godscreated Wrote: and why because He loves you, it's simple.

Abaddon_ire Wrote:As described, your god wants nothing but mindless slaves.

Really and where did you get this information, I know I'm not mindless and to be a slave to God has to do with service to Him without question and most Christians can't do it, I know I can't. 

(January 10, 2018 at 12:27 am)Godscreated Wrote: God doesn't care about epicurean-paradox or any other man made thoughts to explain Him away.

Abaddon_ire Wrote:Yet in contrast, your god needs apologists to explain him/her/it/housecat into existence.

No He doesn't and what made you believe such a silly thing, man has taken up the roll of apologetics, God simply ask us to witness to others about what He does in our lives.

(January 10, 2018 at 12:27 am)Godscreated Wrote: By the way you will see the power of our almighty God one of these days and I hope it's not to late for you.

Abaddon_ire Wrote:When? 2,000 years of threatening such a thing yet it has never happened and never will.

You sure are piling up a bunch of things you need to prove, claiming this stuff doesn't make you right. God has a set time for the return of Christ.

(January 10, 2018 at 12:27 am)Godscreated Wrote: But, it is your decision and ultimately you will be to blame for your own sin as Adam and Eve were blamed for theirs.

Abaddon-ire Wrote:Yes. If your god actually existed, hell would be the preferred option. Who wants to spend eternity worshiping a monster?

You jumped in on a conversation I was having with DA and at first I thought you were sincere but now I see all the foolishness that lives within you. I'm kinda' sorry I even answered your post because you will be like many others here and ignore God's concerns for your life. If you had any idea of what hell really is you wouldn't say such a thing and I'm hoping you do not find out what kinda' hell you are piling up on yourself.

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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Messages In This Thread
RE: Do my parents fear that I'll leave the faith? - by Joods - December 28, 2017 at 2:57 am
RE: Do my parents fear that I'll leave the faith? - by Joods - December 27, 2017 at 10:36 am
RE: Do my parents fear that I'll leave the faith? - by Brian37 - December 27, 2017 at 10:44 am
RE: Do my parents fear that I'll leave the faith? - by Godscreated - January 11, 2018 at 4:18 am

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