RE: The benefits of being christian. Where are there???
January 11, 2018 at 4:13 pm
(This post was last modified: January 11, 2018 at 6:02 pm by drfuzzy.)
(January 11, 2018 at 2:36 pm)Drich Wrote:[/quote](January 10, 2018 at 4:04 pm)drfuzzy Wrote: That's an interesting derailment. Grandizer and Abaddon didn't yell at me for taking a few statements out of your "private" little argument. You yell when we make general "us" atheist statements, you pitch a tantrum when I make a personal observation.Drich No I 'yell' becase they took something that was said about a specific person and applied it to themselves and expected me to account for the false accusation. when again what I said was about grandmuff i believe and mermaid applied it to her or the rest of you.. I would have never made the observation that I did to them. what is so hard to understand about that?
If i said I hate your new hair do, then why would i be expected to defend what I said about your hair ifno other person speaking did not have new hair do?
Fuzz See your original claim in bold green below. It is in no way "personal". No matter what this yammering whiny temper tantrum implies.
Quote:So, you were "in discourse" with Grandizer, trying to slime him by claiming that he wasn't much of a bible reader. (snort)Drich wrong. Grandmuff told me I needed to be more Christ like and that I should read my bible to take ques from Christ. (snort) that i was not being a 'good' christian.
Fuzz - People do imply that "Christ-Like" means respectful, calm, loving, and gentle. Yes, Christ is reported as calling Pharisees and Sadducees all sorts of names. He apparently had a problem with people following laws and not caring about people. Stuff like that.
Drich Anyway I then said if you think Christ was a pious never upset never insulting never outraged person, then you must not be much of a bible reader. then I proceeded to give example after example biblical instances where Christ slams his opponents and even his disciples when they will not take instruction or they do not learn from mistakes. then I showed some examples of my work that mirrored Christ's work. Fuzz - LOL
You ended with "Now how else would a proud atheist react when I tell them all of what they know of God is wrong? Will they be happy for the correction?"
[It blows me away what you people cherry pick to make yourselves the good guys all the time]
Let's see what I actually said thatleads up to this and isolates the rest of you b-holes from the person I was speaking with:
Quote:That is the Jesus of the bible. but you don't know of this jesus do you. nuupe you only know of the modern religious holier than thou bs. a standard not even the recorded Christ Himself could ever reach, as his righteous indignation would not allow willful simpltons to cast their shadows upon the truth of God.
It's one thing if you truthfully do not know and ask a question. it is another completely if you do not care and seek to disrupt or just blindly push your version of God on to people.
Don't get me wrong Christ indeed taught with the carrot (with those who knew no better) but for those who pretend to or sought to test or correct Christ he taught using the stick the whole way through.
Again, that is what god his killed. He embarrassed the jewish leadership sooo much they fear rebellion of the people as it seemed Christ knew God far and away better than any of them did, and they were the standing authority.
Now how else would a proud atheist react when I tell them all of what they know of God is wrong? Will they be happy for the correction?
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IN CONTEXT something you worked so hard to dishonestly hide, my final comment refers to the reason Jesus was beaten and nailed to a cross. Now if Holy Christ was beaten and crucified in his holy work, the question is how esles would you or anyone else like you react to me teaching the same message? will you see it as warm and inviting or will you view it with hate and anger? again how well was Christ's message received?
Fuzz - I did not DISHONESTLY HIDE your rambling, illogical, mispelled, poorly constructed rant. It's still there. I was just being considerate for the others in the forum by hiding a wall of text that was irrelevant to my comment. When I leave an offensive wall of text up like this, it's harder to read. Particularly when the grammar and spelling and illogic demonstrated forces people to read a sentence three times before it can be translated into English.
Quote:Fuzz This is a blanket statement that applies to every atheist, and could reasonably be answered by anyone on this forum.Drich but that is not the statement in question is it? Mermaid asked me if I understood the term Atheist meant based off of what grand muff and I was discussing. That was the "I not speaking to you moment" not the one you chose. "Now how else would a proud atheist react when I tell them all of what they know of God is wrong? Will they be happy for the correction?" Fuzz - My response was correct. "This is a blanket statement that applies to every atheist, and could reasonably be answered by anyone on this forum."
Quote:Fuzz The statement also shows your typical ignorant arrogance.Drich What a lying POS you are... good glob, look at all you had to modify just to make me look this way. look at your cherry picking look what you cut and pasted together, what was edited out of my message just so you could say I am the arrogant one. what a disgusting human being you must be to openly take a publicly view document chop it up and spin it so you could be the good guy. when a simple reading from top to bottom changes everything. Fuzz - See the bold paragraph above, IF you can actually read. And I did not cut and paste anything, I just hid it. I'm not making you look any sort of way. If posts were well-crafted, logical, and intelligent, that's how we perceive the poster. If they are poorly constructed, rambling, egotistical, disrespectful, and insulting, that's how we perceive the poster. From your posts here, I'm quite certain that I would never want to be in the same city with you.
Quote:Fuzz Abaddon wrote something that people here have told you hundreds of times. "I didn't acknowledge god. I merely tested your claim to be able to ask god direct questions and receive answers from him/her/it/housecat. You failed miserably. As did your "god"." This is something so common here that it's amazing that you clearly were incapable of comprehending it.Drich - READ THE PARABLE MORON! "My Claim" is contained within the boundaries the parable and subsequent explanation of it! No where in the parable is the provision made you do not have to believe in God! SEEKING IS all about Acknoweledging God and trying to find Him. How can one seek if they refuse to acknoweledge what they are looking for? Which makes that whole dishonest mess a non attempt of the "luke 11 message"
Fuzz - I have no interest in your invisible fantasy god, your Jeebus, or your wholly babble parables. They're all shit and that's what they have turned what brain you had into. If you were to pray hard enough to get a message and personal relationship with The Flying Spaghetti Monster, you'd get one. You'd go around spouting about how you've been blessed and how lasagna noodles told you the secrets of the universe.
Quote:Fuzz Abaddon asked for proof, you were incapable, as usual, of providing proof.Quote:Drich I can only show you where to go to find it. "proof" is in the doing and ultimatly between you and God. Not you and me as I am not God.Drich I am not Here for you subsequently YOU don't have to believe anything. I am here for those truly looking for answers. You seek assurance from your peer that you are on the collective path. you have never activly participated in anything that does not reaffirm your close minded world view. so again you and people like you.. I expect nothing from. that reason I answer you is because others who I am here for have the very same questions and they may never ask them
Fuzz - God does not exist. I prayed intently for 40 years. I'm completely done with searching for something that does not exist. And you cannot provide proof it does.
Your response was typical gibberish claiming victory because you seem to think that we should believe your fantasies.
Fuzz Quoting Abaddon was simply providing support of his position.
MOST people are members of this forum because they are Atheists, and they want intelligent discussions with other Atheists. There are a few theists on this forum who seem to genuinely want to connect, to learn how others think, and to re-examine their own beliefs. Then there are the ASSHOLES like you who think that you - someone so very obviously uneducated - have ANSWERS THAT WE NEED and the YOU are the person sent to teach us. My path away from Pentecostalism and that brand of ignorant, closed-minded thinking has been a very long one.
Quote:Fuzz All you do is hurl childish playground insults and insult people's intelligence when they disagree with something you posted.Drich Truly take the time and read the anger that comes out of your collective mouths ask yourself how would anyone of you react when everything you say is met with anger and venom? where my intellegence is question, on everything from spelling and grammer to my deeply held religious beliefs. by not one or two of you but by everyone! how many 60 page hate threads were dedicated to your expulsion behind your back? when you are in so much contempt all of the time you either give as good as you get or you drown in the poop other throw. Fuzz - So leave. Atheist anger only tends to come out when people think we need to accept their delusions and insult us when we don't.
I have always put the same effort into my responses you all put into your posts. meaning if you don't like being insulted 5 times, your intellegence questioned 4 times and your momma spoken of, then i suggest you do not insult me 5 time call me stupid 4 times and speak bad about y mother.
I unlike you guys am not like this. this anger is counter my nature. I have to seriously think about what to say to meet the quotas you all set for me in the insult catagory.
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It's play ground rules here, if you can not respect me for who I am you will respect me because I can swing and hit as hard or if not just a little harder than you do.
I am usally very funny (btw most of you take for ignorance or gibberish) and unload you bile and anger on a tom hanks quote or something obi wan said.
Fuzz - Yeah, that wasn't English either. Jeebus Cracker on a unicycle, doesn't your computer even have spell-check?
Quote:You claim to have proof, you constantly provide none.Drich And I do. for me. Fine. It's your private belief, so shut up about it. God will do the same for you if you do as I did. Nope. Not a church thing, not a confession thing not a change your anything thing. It is a between you and God and no one else has to know thing. All He asks is if you follow completely what was said in luke 11 Fuzz - "Luke 11:9-10" is total bullshit, as is every other word in the wholly babble.
Quote:Fuzz You told Jor that all of your claims come from vetted sources, and you never provide a single one.Drich nupe I told that to Grand muff, and she cut in to that conversation.
I said my FACTS meaning what I have to say about God is vetted was what the orginal conversation was about. Fuzz - Vetted means scientifically tested and peer-reviewed, not the little voices in your head.
Quote:Fuzz I supported the positions of fellow forum members and you throw a tantrum worthy of a 6-year old about . . . brownies?? . . . using 6-year-old logic, grammar, and spelling.Drich and you wonder why I then subsequently dissect your posts scowering them for real lapses in intelligence like fallacious logic, closed minded reasoning,dishonest representation of previous quotes and or the fact checking I do. Why? because spelling and grammar are the faults of a small child, something to grow out of.. however intellectual dishonesty, defaulting arguments to fallacious logic, habitually misrepresenting verifiable facts... those are serious/critical flaws in one's base intellect. you can't just grow out of them, as they are greater indicators of a systemic failure to process information on one's own behalf... Fuzz - This from someone who spews fairy tales and old fables as if they are real.
Quote:Fuzz We ask for proof that your imaginary friend exists, and we get the typical infantile temper tantrum. Boo-hoo. Go run home to mommy.Drich ASK HIM MORON!
That is the only way it works! As God rather see you to Hell proper, than bend himself into the circus clown (Doing tricks on demand) most of you would have Him be so you feel comfortable enough to worship! Especially in light of all that He has already done! Fuzz - Ask Who? Marduk? Ahura Mazda? Zoroaster? Osiris? Odin? Mithras? Cerunnos? -- Your Jehovah is just another fiction, made up by witch doctor con artists in order to control people. What "he" has already done? He's done absolutely nothing. He's so incompetent that today - in an age when a child can post information and have it go viral all over the world, he can't even prove he exists. He has to use ignorant, egotistical, offensive, insulting, asshole PREACHERS that yammer on about "if you only pray hard enough". And, compared with the few old "deities" listed above, Jehovah is the biggest asshole of the bunch. We don't even need to read the wholly babble for confirmation of this - all we have to do is read your posts.
Fuzz
"The family that prays together...is brainwashing their children."- Albert Einstein