RE: Aziz Ansari Doesn't Pick Up On "Non-Verbal Cues" and Gets Treated Like A Rapist
January 16, 2018 at 9:37 am
(This post was last modified: January 16, 2018 at 9:39 am by Mermaid.)
This scenario was very hard to read about. I don't even know how many times slight versions of this have happened in my dating career.
I don't know if he is guilty of sexual assault, let me say this up front. I do not have enough information to make that judgment. He sounds like a clueless douchebag from her account, and he clearly does not understand what went wrong until she pointed it out to him, and that's not fair either. His account is credible as well. But he was clearly not respecting her, having literally chased her around repeatedly, with this culminating her in tears in an Uber car. I've been in a few uncomfortable situations where he was clearly not going to take no for an answer. It happens a lot. Things are not always so black and white in these scenarios. It's very easy to say "She should have..." or "I would have..." but the truth is, only they were there and understood what was happening.
Consent is everything. She didn't consent. He persisted. I am pretty sure she's beating herself up at this moment about not having been clearer with him at the time.
This demonstrates, to me, a cultural issue we have. Women are sweet and passive and compliant and demure, and if we're not, we're psycho sluts from Hell. Men are expected to get the girl, to do some work to pursue her.
Yes.
I don't know if he is guilty of sexual assault, let me say this up front. I do not have enough information to make that judgment. He sounds like a clueless douchebag from her account, and he clearly does not understand what went wrong until she pointed it out to him, and that's not fair either. His account is credible as well. But he was clearly not respecting her, having literally chased her around repeatedly, with this culminating her in tears in an Uber car. I've been in a few uncomfortable situations where he was clearly not going to take no for an answer. It happens a lot. Things are not always so black and white in these scenarios. It's very easy to say "She should have..." or "I would have..." but the truth is, only they were there and understood what was happening.
Consent is everything. She didn't consent. He persisted. I am pretty sure she's beating herself up at this moment about not having been clearer with him at the time.
This demonstrates, to me, a cultural issue we have. Women are sweet and passive and compliant and demure, and if we're not, we're psycho sluts from Hell. Men are expected to get the girl, to do some work to pursue her.
(January 16, 2018 at 6:38 am)Industrial Lad Wrote: It's creepy but not sexual assault. But, I would say when a woman starts talking about feeling forced, it's time to take step back.
Yes.
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