RE: Aziz Ansari Doesn't Pick Up On "Non-Verbal Cues" and Gets Treated Like A Rapist
January 16, 2018 at 12:46 pm
(This post was last modified: January 16, 2018 at 12:57 pm by LadyForCamus.)
(January 16, 2018 at 12:29 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: Pure revisionism
Which parts do you feel are not represented accurately in my commentary?
(January 16, 2018 at 12:45 pm)Shell B Wrote:(January 16, 2018 at 12:29 pm)wallym Wrote: The dumb bitch part is the implication in the narrative (overall, not specifically you in this thread). The unspoken answer to the 'why didn't she just say no and leave?' is that she's a dumb bitch. It's why she's being attacked rather than sympathized with. She needs to be dehumanized to make it okay so people can keep liking Parks and Rec and Master of None. Again, not necessarily you, but I think this is the crux of the overall narrative. And another group needs to dehumanize her to justify the actions, because they do the same thing.
Louis CK got verbal consent, I believe, before he pulled out his dick. But even that wasn't really. He just knew that put on the spot, they'd probably not stand up to him.
I just don't believe 'be assertive' is as easy as people make it sound. How many people don't ask for raises, or cave when asked to work overtime, or don't report sexual harassment, or stay in bad relationships, or get taken advantage of by friends, and on and on and on and on and on.
Which brings me back to my original point, if you're a passive person, do you deserve what you get when someone takes advantage of you? It doesn't seem like that should be the case.
Here's the thing, "deserve" isn't the word I would use. Still, being assertive has to be part of your sexual exploration if you're going to get naked with a guy after the first date. At the very least, that's what we need to be teaching girls and women, instead of that they can mutter something about being uncomfortable and that makes them violated. There is another group in this overall narrative that you speak of. We're the people who think that adults are responsible for their sex lives. In my case, I think that 1: bail if the dude is so creepy that you're going to cry for an hour afterward and 2: don't put a guy on blast when you know the whole WORLD will demonize him and you because you had a creepy, unsatisfactory first date. The punishment doesn't fit the crime.
This exactly. I never said he didn’t act like a total jerk, but I don’t think he deserves his entire career in ashes. Louie CK was abusing his power. I fail to see how this was an abuse of power in any form.
Edit:
@Pool, absolutely. I was not implying that once a woman engages in any type of sexual activity, that’s consent going forward. That’s not what I meant. Obviously a woman can say no at any time, including in the middle of intercourse.
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”
Wiser words were never spoken.
Wiser words were never spoken.