RE: Aziz Ansari Doesn't Pick Up On "Non-Verbal Cues" and Gets Treated Like A Rapist
January 16, 2018 at 1:48 pm
(This post was last modified: January 16, 2018 at 1:54 pm by Mermaid.)
(January 16, 2018 at 1:14 pm)alpha male Wrote:No, actually, I don't know, so I wanted to ask. I was serious. This is a topic worth discussing.(January 16, 2018 at 12:14 pm)Mermaid Wrote: Are you sure she consented?
Are you saying that allowing someone to take off your clothes is consent to have sex?
You're continuing to ignore the context of my comment.
(January 16, 2018 at 1:16 pm)alpha male Wrote:(January 16, 2018 at 12:25 pm)pool the matey Wrote: Remove all context and in a vacuum if someone allows someone else to take off their clothes then it is not consent to have sex but the context here is obviously different and so is the situation, obviously in this context in that situation taking off their clothes is "non verbal" consent. There's no questioning that. So two things :
1) guy could read the non verbal cues when she gave consent but suddenly became autistic when she gave non verbal cues to stop? Also, didn't you guys read her text reply? "hey had a good time with you" is so textbook I can't believe you guys couldn't see it, guys send that so the girl will reply something positive then he will have insurance if in the future she raises a complaint he can just show the text but instead her reply was negative.
2) just because she consented in the beginning doesn't mean she can't say stop at any time in between
And when she did actually say stop, I believe he did.
But then went in from another angle.
(January 16, 2018 at 1:20 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:(January 16, 2018 at 12:14 pm)Mermaid Wrote: Are you sure she consented?
Are you saying that allowing someone to take off your clothes is consent to have sex?
No. He's saying it's a non verbal cue.
As the article I posted says, if you're going to rely solely on men picking up your "non verbal cues" to try to figure out whether or not you're wanting to get sexual, you better consider ALL the non verbal cues you're sending. Otherwise, use words.
I believe her account says she did use words, which he also did not respect.
I am not saying he sexually assaulted her, but I think it's important to tease out the issues with this situation.
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