RE: Aziz Ansari Doesn't Pick Up On "Non-Verbal Cues" and Gets Treated Like A Rapist
January 16, 2018 at 3:17 pm
(January 16, 2018 at 2:54 pm)Shell B Wrote: Here's the thing, gross chicks are going to do the same things to guys.
The real problem is that you can't change that system unless you start to call unsolicited kisses sexual assault. That's literally how humans initiate sexual encounters. You go in for the kiss and see what happens. If it works, you take it a step further, as Aziz did, and keep going until you hit a dead end. Both women and men have to be clear about the dead end. And, yes, people are going to kiss you (or try to kiss you) sometimes. It's going to be gross, but it's not illegal and shouldn't be because, well, slippery ass slope.
If the woman literally gets fucked over, she's been raped. That's already illegal.
Is it not PC to expect women to take any responsibility for themselves? Have we flipped completely over to the idea that women are helpless and instead of treating them as the wife-beaters of old did, we now treat them like children who can't possibly navigate the icky world of dating? I, for one, don't like the idea that I'm a voiceless victim in every encounter any more than I like the idea that I'm inferior and need to be punished. This doesn't help women, and it's definitely going to hurt men.
To the bolded, it is an asymmetric game. I think the argument would be that it's unbalanced. That the burden is currently all on the women, while the guy is allowed to try and get away with whatever he can. Looking for a status quo that spreads the burden out a bit doesn't mean women are helpless children. It just means that women are baring all the burden, and men are baring none of it. And that seems stupid.
Just like you don't want women to be treated as children who can't take responsibility for themselves, should men be treated as children who can't take responsibility for their own actions?
I mean, your stance has been the status quo for quite a while, and women are getting raped/assaulted/harassed willy nilly in that environment. It's great you have been able to seemingly shrug off your experiences, but there's probably a large swath of people that you don't represent.
And you're right about women doing the same thing, but men usually have the luxury of being physically stronger. If I shove a chick and say get the fuck away from me, I'm probably good to go in any setting. The threat of physical retribution doesn't have to factor into my response. If you watch "Always Sunny in Philadelphia" you know about the 'implication.'
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I do know what you are saying though. I remember the catcalling debate years back. And I was thinking how there are probably plenty of girls who like it in a variety of demographics. And now instead of getting that daily compliment/flirting when they go get lunch during their work break, everybody's quiet. And that's a bummer.
I'm not sure how you balance the two worlds.