Aziz Ansari Doesn't Pick Up On "Non-Verbal Cues" and Gets Treated Like A Rapist

[Shell B]

To the bolded, it is an asymmetric game.  I think the argument would be that it's unbalanced.  That the burden is currently all on the women, while the guy is allowed to try and get away with whatever he can.  Looking for a status quo that spreads the burden out a bit doesn't mean women are helpless children.  It just means that women are baring all the burden, and men are baring none of it.  And that seems stupid.

Just like you don't want women to be treated as children who can't take responsibility for themselves, should men be treated as children who can't take responsibility for their own actions?  



I'm not sure how you balance the two worlds.

I disagree. The proposed metric seems to be, men have to get crystal-clear consent while women can get out of consent in completely ambiguous ways, making confused men guilty of sexual assault. What I propose isn't the current status quo. It's that people take responsibility for themselves. If you don't feel like you gave consent, say no clearly. If you do feel like you consented, keep being sexual with the person. If you want out, say it clearly. Men, if a woman says no, it means no. If a woman says she's uncomfortable, try to find out exactly with what, so you don't wind up in this situation like Ansari. If she says any sexual contact, stop. It's actually very easy. Let's not call anything uncomfortable assault. Let's not treat women like they have no agency. Let's not treat men as if they are automatically predators or as if they can't stop once they've started. This shit is all no-brainer to me.

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Wally, what you're calling locker room talk is also very similar to how women talk about men. We're not fainting violets. The problem with Trump's locker room talk wasn't that he was being crass. It was that he described actual assault, and he ran for POTUS, and he was married. Oh, the chick he was talking about was married too. Men are treated as objects too. Women are sexual.

There has to be a line between "don't rape us" and "omg, we have to run screaming from all of the scary masculine penises or we'll faint!"