RE: Aziz Ansari Doesn't Pick Up On "Non-Verbal Cues" and Gets Treated Like A Rapist
January 16, 2018 at 6:14 pm
(January 16, 2018 at 6:10 pm)wallym Wrote:(January 16, 2018 at 5:48 pm)Shell B Wrote: I said more than that. On just what you paraphrased alone, I said more like, "find out specifically what is uncomfortable, whether it's everything or something specific."
Don't be ridiculous. That's not what I said.
Nope. Not what I said. It's part of being human. It applies to men too. Also, I at the very least implied that if there is any reason for him to think the kiss is unwanted, he shouldn't do it. Sometimes, going in for a kiss is how people, both men and women, initiate mating. Stop trying to make it sound like I'm trying to shrug off assault and normalize unwarranted sexual advances.
You've got to be shitting me. "Just deal with it?" You're not even defining "it." You're just blasting out one-liners that you think sum up my whole position on sexual interactions, misrepresenting me in grievous ways. Don't worry. You're not the first man (I assumed your gender) to tell me my opinions on womanhood are wrong on this forum while signalling that they're super feminist guardians of the vagina.
Yeah, for whatever reason, I haven't been able to pin down your takes on the matter. That's not intentional. I'm not trying to 'win an argument', I'm just curious what people think, so it's odd there's been such a disconnect. Usually, I'm better at intuiting people's opinions.
But as it pertains to this discussion, I've read a lot of other women who've had a very different take than you (or maybe not, since I've been getting it wrong). So I'm not discounting your opinion, I'm trying to reconcile the two differing opinions together in thinking about how things should be just as a thought exercise.
As a virtue signalling super feminist vagina guarder, I'm often prone to this sort of thing.
From what i understand, Shell B still does agree that being pushy the way Aziz was is wrong and should be morally discouraged. Just not that it should be a sexual crime.
Honestly I think you both agree and are just talking past each other. I think we all agree.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
-walsh