RE: Aziz Ansari Doesn't Pick Up On "Non-Verbal Cues" and Gets Treated Like A Rapist
January 18, 2018 at 5:35 am
(This post was last modified: January 18, 2018 at 6:06 am by Thumpalumpacus.)
(January 18, 2018 at 5:14 am)Hammy Wrote:(January 18, 2018 at 4:40 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Firstly, the whole "white-knighting"-as-belittling thing is stupid. People are espousing opinions, and denigrating them on assumed motivations when you may or may not know why they're doing so is presumptuous at best and dishonest at worst. Secondly, any man worth his salt has a woman who doesn't need that. I know that's true in my own case.
It's not worth belittling if it's not actually white knighting.
I'm only referring to the guys who actually do white knight women. And what I mean by that is.... they get disingenously defensive of women in order to try to appeal to women more in hopes of getting laid more.
I'm not referring to people who aren't actually doing that.
The thing is is that that phrase is used as a pejorative to anyone supporting a woman online, whether for wanting to get laid, wanting to virtue-signal, wanting to self-image, or ... wait for it ... wanting to agree with her. Much like the term "snowflake", it's attained buzzword status, carrying its own luggage. But if you want to use it, you'll need to consider the energy it takes to haul that luggage, and whether it's worth it.
(January 18, 2018 at 4:42 am)Hammy Wrote: And it doesn't count when it's your significant other or crush either. Because I 100% white knight my girlfriends and crushes. Lol. I just can't help myself. I get so biased and defensive of people I have a strong affection for. I can't even help it. I can be totally aware of that bias and I still continue to do it.
I don't. A person's arguments stand or fall on their own merits ... lover, son, mother, whatever. If I don't agree with what's said, I won't support it. It helps when you've got a woman who doesn't need white-knighting.
(January 18, 2018 at 5:21 am)Joods Wrote:(January 18, 2018 at 2:06 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Probably when he posed, hypocritically imo, as a "#metoo" kinda guy.
As for going to the police, we know that doesn't happen in many of these cases. Does that mean they never happened?
I'm not saying that "something" didn't happen. I guess the court of public opinion should decide this one since she was more intent on having it make national headlines, prior to seeking help from the law about it first. And if I was a defense attorney, this is one of the things that I would absolutely argue. Where were her priorities and what was her motive at the time she decided to forego the police in favor of a news article?
Well, here it is, the court of public opinion is deliberating.
As an aside, any defense attorney worth his salt would ask what she was wearing. That's always good mileage in these sorts of things.
(January 18, 2018 at 5:21 am)Joods Wrote: The guy is creepy. He's probably really shitty in bed and if he did what she claimed he did, he's already been shamed in public for it. But I honestly see no actual crime here on his part. What I see is things went sour because she wasn't into whatever he was doing.
I think it's possible a crime was committed. If it was, I think it will never be prosecuted anyway, because her consented fellatio would be interpreted by a jury of people like you as consent for everything and no prosecutor would want to argue that case.
(January 18, 2018 at 5:21 am)Joods Wrote: I have playfully batted Rob's hand away but that doesn't mean that he's sexually assaulting me. If I say I'm not in the mood or if I say stop it, he complies.
Men can be dense and need way more than non-verbal cues with a lot of things.
I'm thinking you didn't really think this post through before you hit "send". You seem to have forgotten that you are, indeed, conversing with a man. Hopefully, that verbal cue will help you out. Lol, "dense", indeed!
I don't "comply" with my woman's wishes. I sense them and respect her feelings. It may only be a difference of emphasis, but it's important ... to us.