(August 24, 2011 at 9:49 pm)Cinjin Wrote: Wow, you've typed so much stupidity into one post, I don't even know where to begin.
Lots of evidence for Jesus Christ ... nope, virtually none.
Jesus Christ even compares to David Copperfield?? ... nope, Copperfield made the statue of liberty disappear and documented it. Documented miracles of jesus...nope
The infallible triune god of scripture ... nope, bible proven to be very very fallible. Click & Learn something for a change
God is omnipresent ... nope, and even if he was wouldn't that indeed mean that he was in the FUCKING sky!!
Sometimes I swear you are a Christian just poking fun at atheism by posting this sort of stuff.
1. There is so much evidence for Christ that even Dawkins himself admits Jesus was a real person. The Historian Luke confirms Christ’s existence and miracles.
2. Youtube videos? Really? Archeology is not an infallible standard of truth, so it cannot be used to “prove” anything to be fallible. You are going to have to do better on that one.
3. The claim that the sky was where God “lived”, that is not supported anywhere in scripture, so it is a false representation of the Biblical God and therefore a straw man.
(August 25, 2011 at 12:11 am)Rhythm Wrote: Stats brothers-in-christ are YEC. The rest of you are heretics.
Old Earth Creationists are not heretics; I still yearn for the day when you actually post about a topic you know something about.
(August 25, 2011 at 8:12 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Who said anything about a round trip Statler, I was suggesting a one-way excursion.
Red herring, your claim was that you could witness ancient events from other points in the universe but this assumes that light travels uniformly in all directions relative to an observer which is something you cannot prove.
(August 25, 2011 at 6:09 am)Ace Otana Wrote: Pretty much. A compulsive liar who got what he deserved. It was the Romans fault for turning him into a fucking martyr though. Killing him in front of his supporters was a bloody mistake. If they made him simply...disappear, christianity may never of happened.Actually Christ got what he didn’t deserve so you can get better than you actually deserve. Any evidence he was a liar? Seems like a pretty bold assertion that would require some evidence.
Quote:So if I am against facts that means that Jesus being some form of magician is a fact. So where is your evidence proving this?
Of course you do, you're against facts. Your standards are extremely low.
Quote: No, it's because I have far higher standards than you. I run under scientific principles, Occam's Razer, credible evidence (verifiable evidence) and the such. You and many like you don't ask for such things, you'll be more than happy to take it all on faith alone, no problems when it comes to taking people's word for it.So you only believe things that you yourself have observed to be true?
Quote: Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.I was hoping you’d say this! A majority of people living today believe in some form of deity or deities, so that is by definition the ordinary claim. So actually by claiming there are no God or gods you are making the extraordinary claim, so where is your extraordinary evidence proving no God or gods exist? Put yourself in a sticky wicket with that one :-P
Quote:And if this "infallible Triune Scripture" said you won't die if you jump off a cliff? You'll take it's word for it? Your standards are so fucking low, it's pathetic.Scripture doesn’t say that, so your logic is fallacious by using a false analogy.
Quote: That's not proof, that's just some bastard writing shit in some book and claiming it was god. Now prove Thor does not exist.I already did. God said he does not exist, therefore he does not exist.
Quote: Besides, I had a personal experience of Thor, he took me up and into great Valhalla's Hall. He told me that every other religion is false and that every christian and muslim will perish in hell. Now, disprove it if you can.I already did, God said Thor does not exist, so I know your account is a lie because your depravity makes you a dying liar and God cannot lie.
Quote: Why would god have an image?Is there a reason he couldn’t?
Quote:And yet he was created by man.Proof?
Quote: If that's the case, then he must of watched women raped, children molested, people murdered but did fuck all? Ever heard of the immoral of inaction? It's like I saw a child fall down the well, and though I have the power to pull him out, I don't and I simply walk away as if nothing happened. People world over would hate my guts, so why does god get a free pass? What's his excuse for not acting?
Those events all serve a purpose that ends up working out for the good of the believer. Everyone deserves far worse than what they get in life, so to say that God is somehow obligated to give them even better than they deserve is logically fallacious. We should all be thankful that we have a loving and gracious God who gives us all what we do not deserve rather than whining about getting better than we deserve.
As an atheist how do you account for this universal and transcendent law of morality that you seem to be appealing to here? Where did it come from? How do we recognize it and know it?
Quote: What is the purpose of god? Why does he exist?
To love the members of the Godhead and to glorify Himself.