(January 20, 2018 at 5:44 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:(January 20, 2018 at 5:42 pm)polymath257 Wrote: Sorry, your argument fails starting at #3. it gets much worse after that.
What is the problem with 3? If we have no idea how the brain can generate morals and make goodness binding on us, we don't know it's not an illusion.
What if it's a chaotic process that is just makes us feel good and cooperate but has no reality? And that we all dispute about it because of that?
Let's see a real problem with this premise. Remember people didn't understand chemistry all that like today, so none of that could justify it in the past.
(January 20, 2018 at 5:43 pm)zebo-the-fat Wrote: "5. If we aren't justified in beliefs in morals and goodness, then goodness is an illusion.
6. Goodness is not an illusion."
No, morals and the idea of "goodness" is defined by culture, one culture may think it's good to deny women a vote or ban them from driving, another may think it's good to keep black people as slaves
What people actually CLAIM to believe and think is one thing, what they actually know and believe is another.
Yes if we take everyone on their claims to knowledge, then there is no such thing as knowledge. And if we take everyone claim at what they deem morality then there is no morality.
(January 20, 2018 at 5:44 pm)chimp3 Wrote: Amazing to me the bullshit primates conjure up because they are bored. I think being a primate is fascinating! MK! Get in touch with your apey apeness!
Thanks for showing a sufficient reason why God would not creates us from primates.
Please learn some biology, we were not made from primates, we ARE primates
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Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups
Arguing with an engineer is like wrestling with a pig in mud ..... after a while you realise that the pig likes it!