(January 25, 2018 at 10:34 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: I just saw a video of torture in Mexico.
The brutal intro serves a reason. It makes you feel what I feel after watching a video like this.
It makes ISIS jihadists look like pussies; TBH.
It also makes you question the campaigns led by many countries under the label of "fighting terrorism".
It asks a more realistic question: why the hell does these gangsters get to live peacfuly, while Muslims are doomed to be terrorists?
Ironic; but that is not my topic.
Why are some humans this evil?
Is it the obsessive, manic thought of greed? or is it the line humans cross when brutalized in their own time -brutalize and you create terrorists out of your victims'-.
This is a legacy of something so wrong with humanity: the average everyday person just don't care. Let's be honest: punish the people who corrupt the earth; and do it with everybody: starting with yourself.
Lack of belief is the reason behind this, but if somebody "believes too much"; it's as bad and as terrible. Remember the Christian Inquisitions?
I pray I don't meet such fate. But just like why I explained way back:
https://atheistforums.org/thread-52735.html
I'm not a terrorist because I fear a lord. Fear a day of judgement.
Once you drop fear about that day; either by non-believe or believing that hell would pass you; then you'll probably skin people alive...or fight "terrorism".
Atlass33
The truth of reality is that human evolution WILL ALWAYS produce BOTH cruelty and compassion. Unfortunately the reality is BOTH can work in getting to the point of reproduction.
I don't say that to say humans should be fatalistic or default to inhuman brutality. I only say that as a reality. Just like we know hurricanes and volcanos and earthquakes can kill us too. Just like bacteria and cancer can kill us too.
Humans have always, and will always display acts of cruelty and compassion. The key to reducing harm isn't to chalk it up to old mythology, but to seek UNDERSTANDING of conditions that lead to that harm. Japan is severely earthquake prone, but at the same time their scientists are CONSTANTLY seeking better technology to make better building codes to reduce the effects of earthquakes on buildings.
BUT the same can be said with human behaviors, which is why fields like psychology, psychiatry, criminology and neurology help us understand how we as a species behave under certain conditions.
Crimes like rape, and child molesting for example, are not a result of a magic super villain screwing with the brain of the criminal. Those crimes are understood through decades of psychology, psychiatry and documenting interviews with BOTH the victim and criminals. That understanding has lead us to knowing that those acts are not about sex, but about power and control. In much the same way we know what conditions have the potential to lead to a hurricane.
Unfortunately religion, not just yours, but worldwide in all of our species history, makes very bad guesses as to why humans do what they do, good or bad.
Religion in all it's forms is a flawed perception which is a very bad gap answer as to why natural events happen.
"Natural" to the theist, is a very childish candy coated idea of "only good should happen".
"Natural" to an objective observer is merely reporting what they observe, good or bad. Natural ethics is when you report then based upon where the evidence takes you, you seek solutions to even the bad natural events, just like building codes in Japan are constantly challenged to improve the safety of the structure. Just like the flu virus is natural and BAD which is why we create new vaccines to reduce the harm the virus causes.