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God does not determine right and wrong
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RE: God does not determine right and wrong
(January 27, 2018 at 6:25 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(January 26, 2018 at 11:27 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I imagine a world where rape and murder were morally good would be a very very different world. Everything about human nature and how this world works points to those things being morally wrong.

Basically it makes no sense for God to declare rape/murder morally good, considering the world He has set up and the way He created us. They are contrary to natural law.

If rape and murder are 'contrary to natural law', of what use is God when it comes to determining morality?  If God is the author of morality, then anything God deems to be a moral good (including rape and murder) is a moral good.  There are Biblical passages in which God explicitly condones rape, murder, infanticide and genocide.  Since the great majority of human beings are repulsed by such acts, it strikes me that moral behaviour exists independently of what God has to say about it.

Boru

It's still OK for the religious folks to imbibe poison and pester cobras ain't it ?
 The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it. 




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God does not determine right and wrong - by Alexmahone - January 26, 2018 at 11:25 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Catholic_Lady - January 26, 2018 at 11:27 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by vorlon13 - January 27, 2018 at 9:03 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Chad32 - January 27, 2018 at 11:04 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Banned - January 27, 2018 at 6:59 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Chad32 - January 27, 2018 at 7:07 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Banned - January 27, 2018 at 7:52 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Chad32 - January 27, 2018 at 8:48 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by bennyboy - January 27, 2018 at 9:24 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Brian37 - January 29, 2018 at 7:35 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Banned - January 27, 2018 at 1:22 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Minimalist - January 27, 2018 at 1:52 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Banned - January 27, 2018 at 3:34 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Minimalist - January 27, 2018 at 11:03 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Banned - January 27, 2018 at 7:34 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Nay_Sayer - January 27, 2018 at 7:46 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Banned - January 27, 2018 at 8:14 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Nay_Sayer - January 27, 2018 at 9:26 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by brewer - January 27, 2018 at 10:56 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by vorlon13 - January 27, 2018 at 8:52 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Grandizer - January 27, 2018 at 2:02 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by polymath257 - January 27, 2018 at 10:28 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by LadyForCamus - January 27, 2018 at 10:32 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Banned - January 27, 2018 at 5:48 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by LadyForCamus - January 27, 2018 at 10:10 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by shadow - January 29, 2018 at 12:10 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Banned - February 1, 2018 at 7:23 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by shadow - February 1, 2018 at 7:37 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Chad32 - February 1, 2018 at 11:46 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by polymath257 - January 27, 2018 at 11:05 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Grandizer - February 8, 2018 at 10:35 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Grandizer - February 9, 2018 at 12:54 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by polymath257 - February 8, 2018 at 11:48 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by LadyForCamus - January 27, 2018 at 11:09 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Chad32 - January 27, 2018 at 6:54 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by vorlon13 - January 27, 2018 at 8:04 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by SteveII - January 27, 2018 at 12:53 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Whateverist - January 27, 2018 at 7:05 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by brewer - January 27, 2018 at 8:10 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Chad32 - January 27, 2018 at 9:01 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Banned - January 28, 2018 at 2:31 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Nay_Sayer - January 28, 2018 at 3:31 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by LadyForCamus - January 28, 2018 at 9:30 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Banned - January 29, 2018 at 7:30 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by LadyForCamus - January 29, 2018 at 9:24 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Banned - February 1, 2018 at 7:38 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by shadow - February 1, 2018 at 7:43 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Banned - February 1, 2018 at 7:52 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by shadow - February 1, 2018 at 11:53 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Grandizer - February 1, 2018 at 7:45 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by LadyForCamus - February 1, 2018 at 12:28 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Banned - February 2, 2018 at 6:28 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Banned - February 2, 2018 at 5:36 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Mister Agenda - February 2, 2018 at 11:21 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Chad32 - January 28, 2018 at 10:56 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Banned - January 29, 2018 at 7:44 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Chad32 - January 29, 2018 at 11:37 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by CapnAwesome - January 27, 2018 at 9:07 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Chad32 - January 27, 2018 at 9:17 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by LadyForCamus - January 27, 2018 at 11:24 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Chad32 - January 27, 2018 at 11:43 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Banned - January 28, 2018 at 3:34 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by vorlon13 - January 29, 2018 at 10:09 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Mr.wizard - January 28, 2018 at 9:37 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Cinjin - January 28, 2018 at 1:03 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Ignorant - January 29, 2018 at 6:49 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Sal - January 29, 2018 at 7:47 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Banned - January 29, 2018 at 8:32 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Catholic_Lady - January 29, 2018 at 12:13 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by shadow - January 29, 2018 at 12:26 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Brian37 - January 29, 2018 at 6:15 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by vorlon13 - January 29, 2018 at 12:54 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Chad32 - January 29, 2018 at 1:08 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by vorlon13 - January 29, 2018 at 1:17 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Whateverist - January 29, 2018 at 1:00 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Chad32 - January 29, 2018 at 5:39 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Chad32 - January 29, 2018 at 6:14 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Chad32 - January 29, 2018 at 11:46 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Magilla - February 1, 2018 at 9:28 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Banned - February 2, 2018 at 5:52 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Magilla - February 3, 2018 at 2:21 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Cyberman - February 3, 2018 at 3:22 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Banned - February 2, 2018 at 6:48 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Banned - February 2, 2018 at 7:06 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Sal - February 2, 2018 at 7:12 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by vorlon13 - February 2, 2018 at 10:39 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Banned - February 2, 2018 at 5:27 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Banned - February 2, 2018 at 6:33 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Banned - February 2, 2018 at 7:09 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Sal - February 2, 2018 at 7:23 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Banned - February 2, 2018 at 7:24 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Magilla - February 3, 2018 at 8:47 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Jeezypete - February 4, 2018 at 2:23 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Succubus - February 4, 2018 at 6:14 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by John V - February 8, 2018 at 7:19 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Grandizer - February 8, 2018 at 9:52 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by John V - February 8, 2018 at 9:54 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by polymath257 - February 8, 2018 at 2:55 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by polymath257 - February 9, 2018 at 10:48 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by polymath257 - February 9, 2018 at 11:29 am
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by polymath257 - February 9, 2018 at 12:16 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by polymath257 - February 9, 2018 at 6:23 pm
RE: God does not determine right and wrong - by Imabeliever - February 12, 2018 at 5:22 pm

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